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			08-10-2017, 12:19 AM
			
			
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			I thought the idea when Lazar was acquired was to play him with Bennett. I think they'll get some time together early.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-10-2017, 06:13 AM
			
			
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				I thought the idea when Lazar was acquired was to play him with Bennett. I think they'll get some time together early. 
			
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Hmmmm, first I've heard of it. Tkachuk-Bennett-Lazar would be an interesting line though.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-21-2017, 11:53 AM
			
			
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			08-21-2017, 11:58 AM
			
			
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			08-21-2017, 02:26 PM
			
			
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			Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland/Bennett 
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik 
Bennett/Ferland-Jankowski-Versteeg 
Stajan-Lazar-Brouwer 
 
Giordano - Hamilton 
Brodie - Hamonic 
Valimaki - Stone 
 
Smith 
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Jankowski has an awesome summer, comes into camp on fire and pushes Bennett to the wing. Bennett also has an awesome summer, his chemistry with Versteeg continues from late last season and with Janko cantering them all three put up ~40 point seasons, giving the Flames arguably the best third line in the league. Valimaki surprises while also taking advantage of weak LD depth and gets 9 games to start the year (rotating out with Kulak) after which he is sent down to junior (captain of Finland's WJ team, big minutes etc.) because Kulak solidifies himself as a capable third pairing guy and Flames would prefer to delay the start of Valimaki's contract in light of the several D contracts coming due in three years time.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			08-22-2017, 03:24 PM
			
			
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			Given all the Jagr rumors today I thought I would give this a shot again. 
 
Gaudreau - Monahan – Jagr - Top scoring line, offensive zone starts 
Tkachuk - Backlund – Frolik – Shut down line, defensive zone starts, if it isn’t broke don’t fix it 
Ferland - Bennett – Lazar – Pain in the ass third line with lots of upside scoring potential 
Versteeg - Stajan – Brouwer – Overpaid 4th line but still better than most 4 lines in the leauge 
Jankowski/Hamilton/Foo or whoever does well in camp 
 
Giordano - Hamilton 
Brodie - Hamonic 
Kulak – Stone 
Bartkowski 
 
Smith 
Lack 
 
If Jagr rumors turn out to be bogus I would go with this 
 
Gaudreau - Monahan – Tkachuk - Top scoring line, offensive zone starts, Tkachuk give this line much needed grit 
Jankowski - Backlund – Frolik – Shut down line, defensive zone starts, gives Jankowski a great line to mentor with 
3rd/4th and defense unchanged.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-23-2017, 01:40 AM
			
			
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			Just playing with line ups at this point 
 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Jagr 
Bennett-Backlund-Frolik 
Tkachuk-Jankowski-Versteeg 
 Stajan-Lazar-Ferland  
  
Or 
 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland  
Jankowski-Backlund-Frolik  
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr  
Versteeg-Stajan-Lazar 
  
Or 
 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Jagr 
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik  
Versteeg-Bennett-Lazar 
Stajan-Jankowski-Ferland 
 
I put Jagr in the line up and even with bias aside (I think) I keep ending up with Brouwer as the odd man out.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			08-23-2017, 01:51 AM
			
			
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				Just playing with line ups at this point 
 
Gaudreau-Monohan-Jagr 
Bennett-Backlund-Frolik 
Tkachuck-Jankowski-Versteeg 
 Stajan-Lazar-Ferland  
  
Or 
 
Gaudreau-Monohan-Ferland  
Jankowski-Backlund-Frolik  
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr  
Versteeg-Stajan-Lazar 
  
Or 
 
Gaudreau-Monohan-Jagr 
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik  
Versteeg-Benmet-Lazar 
Stajan-Jankowski-Ferland 
 
I put Jagr in the line up and even with bias aside (I think) I keep ending up with Brouwer as the odd man out. 
			
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I don't mind the lineups, but Mon ahan
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			08-23-2017, 01:56 AM
			
			
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				I don't mind the lineups, but Monahan 
			
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Good call. Just using the autofill on my phone and didnt even notice.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-23-2017, 03:03 AM
			
			
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				Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland  
Jankowski-Backlund-Frolik  
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr  
Versteeg-Stajan-Lazar 
  
I put Jagr in the line up and even with bias aside (I think) I keep ending up with Brouwer as the odd man out. 
			
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I think Janko is unlikely to make the team if we sign Jagr and all the forwards are healthy. That said the forwards are unlikely to be completely healthy exiting training camp. But let's pretend they are all healthy then IMO your second line would probably be 
Frolik-Backlund-Brouwer 
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			09-01-2017, 11:16 AM
			
			
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			I feel like Bennett and Frolik should be a paring next season. Backlund and Tkachuk should be together as they just have a perfect sense for one another and they were the main cogs of the 3M line, and by putting Fro with Bennett we're giving him a legit top 6 forward that he could make skilled plays with, while also providing him with that defensively responsible presence that was absent in his time spent with Versteeg and Brouwer. 
 
Main pairings: Gaudreau/Monahan - Backlund/Tkachuk - Bennett/Frolik 
 
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland 
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lazar 
Versteeg - Bennett - Frolik 
Stajan - Jankowski - Brouwer 
 
 
Wings could be all shuffled. Say we bring in Jagr: 
 
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland 
Frolik - Bennett - Jagr 
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lazar 
Versteeg - Jankowski - Brouwer 
Stajan 
 
Really deep team that also allows for a multitude of different combos and looks at 5v5, PK & PP
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2017, 01:35 PM
			
			
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			WITH JAGR 
 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland 
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik 
Versteeg-Bennett-Jagr 
Lazar-Jankowski-Brouwer 
Stajan, Hathaway 
 
Giordano-Hamilton 
Brodie-Hamonic 
Stone-Kulak 
Bartkowski 
 
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WITHOUT JAGR 
 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland 
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik 
Versteeg-Bennett-Jankowski 
Lazar-Stajan-Brouwer 
Hathaway, F.Hamilton 
 
D and G stay the same
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2017, 01:42 PM
			
			
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				WITH JAGR 
 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland 
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik 
Versteeg-Bennett-Jagr 
Lazar-Jankowski-Brouwer 
Stajan, Hathaway 
 
Giordano-Hamilton 
Brodie-Hamonic 
Stone-Kulak 
Bartkowski 
 
Smith  
Lack 
 
WITHOUT JAGR 
 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland 
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik 
Versteeg-Bennett-Jankowski 
Lazar-Stajan-Brouwer 
Hathaway, F.Hamilton 
 
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I think this is right, except I'd probabky have Stajan starting over one of Lazar or Jankowski as the more realistic possibility (but the guy who's out would easily slot in for a healthy scratch or injury).  Also, the coach seemed to prefer F. Hamilton over Hathaway by a slim margin last year.  However, the loss of Engelland's fighting ability, plus Hathaway's contract might make Hathaway more attractive as an insertion.  
 
Anyway, that's a nice looking team.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2017, 02:19 PM
			
			
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			Here's my list I'd like to see start. 
 
Gaudreau--Monahan--Ferland 
Jankowski--Backland--Frolik 
Tkachuk--Bennett-- Lazar 
Versteeg--Stajan-- Brouwer     
 
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			09-01-2017, 02:35 PM
			
			
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			Vulcan, I think this is a good line up too. I like rotating a rookie into the Backlund Frolik line with Jankowski. I also would like to see Tkachuk, Bennett and Lazar.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2017, 02:36 PM
			
			
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				Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk 
Bennett-Backlund-Frolik 
Ferland-Jankowski-Versteeg 
Stajan-Lazar-Brouwer  
Foo/Hamilton 
 
Giordano-Hamilton  
Brodie-Hamonic 
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Yikes. That is weak bottom 6 by playoff contender standards.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2017, 06:26 PM
			
			
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				Yikes. That is weak bottom 6 by playoff contender standards. 
			
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Really shows how important every dollar is in a cap world. One bad signing can really keep a team a tier below the true contenders.
 
One more star forward at $7.5mil would make a WORLD of difference in pushing the Flames to contender status vs Brouwer at $4.5m + $3mil in cap space that we have instead.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2017, 06:48 PM
			
			
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				Vulcan, I think this is a good line up too. I like rotating a rookie into the Backlund Frolik line with Jankowski. I also would like to see Tkachuk, Bennett and Lazar. 
			
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			09-01-2017, 07:29 PM
			
			
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			Most likely (less change) 
 
Tkachuck-Backlund-Frolik 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland 
Versteeg-Bennett-Brouwer 
Lazar-Stajan-Hathaway 
 
Possible (some change): 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland 
Lazar-Backlund-Frolik 
Tkachuck-Bennett-Versteeg 
Brouwer-Stajan-Hathaway 
 
Not likely 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Jagr 
Tkachuck-Backlund-Frolik 
Versteeg-Bennett-Ferland 
Hamilton-Lazar-Hathaway 
 
I'm starting to see Tkachuck-Bennett as a Perry-Getzlaf lite combo in the making, much as Gaudrea-Monahan could be a Kane-Toews lite. I hope those two get playing time together early. I know its been wonderful for Tkachuck to play with Backlund, but at some point, he's going to need to drive the play from a different line.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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