American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Azure

Gotta wonder if Kelly made Trump agree to certain conditions before he took the job as CoS. From all accounts he is a big straight shooter with little tolerance for BS.

I don't wonder at all. You think Trump and his ego would let Kelly make demands of him prior to taking a job?

[Krovikan]

Originally Posted by Azure

Gotta wonder if Kelly made Trump agree to certain conditions before he took the job as CoS. From all accounts he is a big straight shooter with little tolerance for BS.

A straight shooter wouldn't take the job

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[Kybosh]

The Mooch was a pretty straight shooter too.

[jschick88]

Interesting. Spicey is still at it. Maybe he is staying now that Mooch is out.

Sean Spicer‏ @PressSec
.@POTUS Statement on Los Angeles’ successful bid for the 2028 Olympic and Paralympic Games

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by jschick88

Interesting. Spicey is still at it. Maybe he is staying now that Mooch is out.

Sean Spicer‏ @PressSec
.@POTUS Statement on Los Angeles’ successful bid for the 2028 Olympic and Paralympic Games

I think there was just a set date for his departure, so he's just doing his job while he's still got it.

[burn_this_city]

Mooch got fired before his start date. Smooth

[getbak]

It's the @PressSec account, so Spicey may not be running the account even though his name is on it. Huckabee-Sanders probably doesn't know how to change the name.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Jake Tapper's favorite game now-a-days: "Is there a tweet for that?". I don't know, it's not bad, but it is kind of boring since the answer is almost always yes.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Krovikan

A straight shooter wouldn't take the job

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I disagree with this. If you really believed in the country, and you believed that Trump is a potentially lethal threat to the world then you would agree to serve in an effort to try to prevent him from nuking the world. Being the person who Controls access and the flow of information to the president is an important post to have someone reasonably rational.

At some point someone may need to rally the votes to remove the president using the 25th amendment. If only people without integrity took these jobs you lose the protection of the 25th amendment. (I realize that Kelly is not in the cabinet and wouldn't have a vote in this case).

So Inthink their are two reasons to serve in the presidency one is the desire for power at all costs the other is service to the country in spite of ones reputation.

[photon]

Jesus, could you get any more whiny?

“I want somebody to start fighting for him,” Trump told Fox News’s “Hannity,” on Monday night.

“How much weight does he have to carry by himself?”

...

“They would rather see this country fail than see my father succeed,” he added, seeming to refer to Democrats whom he said refused to work with the GOP on healthcare reform.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ing-for-my-dad

[photon]

Oh, and just for fun...

North Korea's latest test of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) has shown that Pyongyang now may be able to reach most of the continental United States, two U.S. officials told Reuters on Monday.

The assessment, which the officials discussed on condition of anonymity, underscored the growing threat posed by Pyongyang's nuclear and missile programs, and could add pressure on President Donald Trump's administration to respond.

North Korea said on Saturday it had conducted another successful test of an ICBM that proved its ability to strike America's mainland.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-no...-idUSKBN1AG04F

[ToewsFan]

Originally Posted by photon

Oh, and just for fun...

North Korea's latest test of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) has shown that Pyongyang now may be able to reach most of the continental United States, two U.S. officials told Reuters on Monday.

The assessment, which the officials discussed on condition of anonymity, underscored the growing threat posed by Pyongyang's nuclear and missile programs, and could add pressure on President Donald Trump's administration to respond.

North Korea said on Saturday it had conducted another successful test of an ICBM that proved its ability to strike America's mainland.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-no...-idUSKBN1AG04F

North Korea is full of hot air. As if they are going to strike the continental United States with ICBM's. The North Koreans are not stupid.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Hahaha even more Twitter prophecy. Some news outlet really needs to scour the social media accounts of all of Trump's inner circle. The future of the Presidency lies in those tweets and likes and fav.

Anthony Scaramucci‏Verified account @Scaramucci 6 Sep 2012
A recovery starts with a presidential pink slip

https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/statu...00016857604097

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by ToewsFan

North Korea is full of hot air. As if they are going to strike the continental United States with ICBM's. The North Koreans are not stupid.

They don't need to be - just one of them does.

[ToewsFan]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

They don't need to be - just one of them does.

If North Korea was going to go on the offensive and attack a country, it would almost certainly be South Korea. To a much lesser extent, it could be Japan. Either way, that could initiate a major Global conflict, as the USA and NATO would almost certainly come to the aid of South Korea and Japan, with China likely supporting North Korea, just like 1950.

Attacking the United States with ICBM's would be suicide, as the USA would retaliate with nuclear warheads in less than seven days, regardless of what China says. You have to keep in mind that despite the strength of the Chinese military, the US would defeat them in a war, as the Americans are by far and away, the stronger country militarily in the World.

However, it will never happen, as it would cause a major Global crisis, and a complete annihilation of North Korea that would make Hiroshima look like child's play. I also don't think it would be a stretch to call Kim Jong-un a more mentally stable individual than Donald Trump.

[photon]

And if NK wanted to attack SK, they could have done it long ago, but they haven't. North Korea is a terrible regime, but they're a rational actor; they want nukes so they aren't vulnerable to being regime changed by the US.

[DuffMan]

No WH chaos

Love it.

[Bunk]

Excellent (and depressing) discussion on how intractable the North Korea problem really is

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/it...ar-north-korea

[oldschoolcalgary]

thanks for the link... will have to give it a shot.

anyone listen to pod save america? or pod save the world?

it has some ex Obama staffers, so obviously a democratic slant to things, but it is interesting as they have discussed things like why Obamacare did the things that it did, the issues with it, the legislative process etc.... lots of pretty interesting guests too.. mainly other Obama staffers. But they have pulled in some GOP guests too...obviously the more moderate ones.

PStW is on foreign policy issues... also pretty good.

worth a listen, esp when they pull back the curtain on what happens in committee etc...apparently, you can also listen to them via spotify now

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by ToewsFan

If North Korea was going to go on the offensive and attack a country, it would almost certainly be South Korea. To a much lesser extent, it could be Japan. Either way, that could initiate a major Global conflict, as the USA and NATO would almost certainly come to the aid of South Korea and Japan, with China likely supporting North Korea, just like 1950.

Attacking the United States with ICBM's would be suicide, as the USA would retaliate with nuclear warheads in less than seven days, regardless of what China says. You have to keep in mind that despite the strength of the Chinese military, the US would defeat them in a war, as the Americans are by far and away, the stronger country militarily in the World.

However, it will never happen, as it would cause a major Global crisis, and a complete annihilation of North Korea that would make Hiroshima look like child's play. I also don't think it would be a stretch to call Kim Jong-un a more mentally stable individual than Donald Trump.

I don't think that you have a firm grasp of international politics, the United States and China are massive trading partners, with North Korea being the equivalent of an annoyance for everyone involved. There is no way that if North Korea were to attack any country that China would defend them, the communist party has changed to such a degree that it would be economic suicide to do anything.

As long as everyone in positions of power is having an exchange of money there is no chance of your situation playing out like that.