Johnny says it would be sweet to be a Flyer

[AC]

Worst case and Johnny doesn't seem to be interested in signing an extension during the final year of his contract, you trade him.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by AC

Worst case and Johnny doesn't seem to be interested in signing an extension during the final year of his contract, you trade him.

Wouldn't it be better to move him before his 26 team no trade list kicks in?

[Southside]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

But... I get the impression from your posts in this thread as knowing exactly what pot you are stirring and worded the thread accordingly..

CFF is simply saying there is no news here and whats the point of even entertaining the possibility of Johnny moving on since hes not going anywhere for at least 5 years. Which makes more sense than to sit here and have a discussion that isn't even in the realm of possible at this moment.

Your "sharing information" is an attempt to fear monger and nothing more.

This board has a huge range of hockey knowledge and those who have more limited information, knowledge or access may take this information and be quite upset, which is not fair and simply irresponsible "sharing" by you, the OP.

If it were geared towards a Johnny being classy piece, and not taken out of context and twisted into something its not, I don't think anyone would have an issue with discussing this.

Lock it up!... I say anyway..

Irresponsible me. Please.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Wouldn't it be better to move him before his 26 team no trade list kicks in?

Not necessarily. All of this depends on where the team is at the time, which is AGAIN one of the reasons why any discussion of this now is so massively premature.

[Cantrader]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Wouldn't it be better to move him before his 26 team no trade list kicks in?

He has a 5 team list on his last year.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Cgycowboy

Ya something about him gave me the same vibe. This isn't "chicken little" crap but I always thought a pure hockey trade involving him could happen at some point like Johansen for Jones or subban for webber. On the other hand I hope he turns as elite as Patrick Kane and decides to stay as one of the faces of this franchise. That ego stuff really plays on hockey players to be "the guy" and have a whole city love you (even if it's not your home town, ex iggy).


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Personally if I posted the OP article I probably would have just said, "Johnny is doing a fantastic job promoting the league while doing charity work". Look at what Giodano has done and the huge impact he has had on the community! Johnny is following Giodano's lead showing LEADERSHIP and making a DIFFERENCE in the community. Supporting, enhancing, changing peoples lives and all the OP focus's on is that Johnny said, "it would be sweet to play for the Flyers?". How is that news? The real news is what Johnny is doing in the community and that he is showing the people of Philadelphia and the National Hockey League that it is not WHO you are but what you do that really makes a difference.

If you go to the Annual Scholarship page https://www.johnnyhockeygolf.com/ "Johnny Gaudreau" is helping to generate funds for students who need help paying for tuition. That is more likely what Johnny wants people to recognize. Good on him for making people in that community feel good that it would be a sweet place to play!

[Trojan97]

No one plays their entire career in one city anymore. If we get Johnny for 5 more years and he decides to leave to be closer to home/family, we should wish him well. We'll have gotten his best years as a player by that point anyways. Not sure what the fear is at all from some people.

[Southside]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Personally if I posted the OP article I probably would have just said, "Johnny is doing a fantastic job promoting the league while doing charity work". Look at what Giodano has done and the huge impact he has had on the community! Johnny is following Giodano's lead showing LEADERSHIP and making a DIFFERENCE in the community. Supporting, enhancing, changing peoples lives and all the OP focus's on is that Johnny said, "it would be sweet to play for the Flyers?". How is that news? The real news is what Johnny is doing in the community and that he is showing the people of Philadelphia and the national hockey league that it is not WHO you are but what you do that really makes a difference.

If you go to the Annual Scholarship page https://www.johnnyhockeygolf.com/ "Johnny Gaudreau is helping to generate funds for students who need help paying for tuition. That is more likely what Johnny wants people to recognize. Good on him for making people in that community feel good that it would be a sweet place to play!

I don't recall seeing that in the story. Perhaps you can read it again and provide that context. I agree with you but fail to grasp how posting this story means I'm stirring the pot or taking anything out of context. It's just a news story.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Southside

Irresponsible me. Please.

Good one! About as good as your thread..

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Trojan97

No one plays their entire career in one city anymore. If we get Johnny for 5 more years and he decides to leave to be closer to home/family, we should wish him well. We'll have gotten his best years as a player by that point anyways. Not sure what the fear is at all from some people.

Agree with your post, but to expand on it, not many players get to play for their hometown team in their careers.

We have no idea where Philly will be in terms of available space for JG in 5 years. May be a situation of them not having room to fit him in or JG may get head-shotted and not be as effective and Philly may not want him. Or simply perhaps he wont fit the team dynamic that is in place..

Who knows..? No one. That's why this topic, as Textcritic put it, is "massively premature".

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Southside

I don't recall seeing that in the story. Perhaps you can read it again and provide that context. I agree with you but fail to grasp how posting this story means I'm stirring the pot or taking anything out of context. It's just a news story.

Good point, maybe your just being a bit short sighted, maybe his comment "it would be sweet to play for the Flyers," is being taken a bit out of context? When you look at what the tournament is about. I don't think his comments are really newsworthy or that important.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Southside

Nope. Some members of the forum appreciate the sharing of information. Others choose to bury their heads in the sand. The overreaction seems to be coming from those that don't care to know.

That's the point: there's nothing to 'know' here. You are attempting to interpret meaning in a casual answer to a casual question. Yet you have never spoken to Johnny so you can't possibly have any grounds on which to draw conclusions.

This is precisely the kind of personal intrusion that causes so many players to run from Canadian markets.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Cantrader

He has a 5 team list on his last year.

Which could also be interpreted as a 26 team No trade list

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Not necessarily. All of this depends on where the team is at the time, which is AGAIN one of the reasons why any discussion of this now is so massively premature.

This discussion isn't necessary and you can lock the thread if you like. I agree nothing is going to happen for 3 years at least so we can pump the brakes on the discussion for now but I have little doubt it will be relevant down the line.

[curves2000]

I think the thing upsets me a little more than anything is that we seem to have different sides of Johnny depending on who's asking the questions.

When he was playing in college there was always the rumor that he didn't want to sign in Calgary due to the distance from his hometown. There was always articles quoting him and his family wondering where these "rumors" came from. In the Spittin Chicklits podcast he confirmed his mom was devasted when she found out how far Calgary was compared to his hometown.

When he was on his ELC and he made it to the first 2 All-Star games there were all sorts of articles about how he was "surprised" to learn he landed this $250k bonus, and other bonus's for other performance metrics. There were lots of quote along the line of "I love playing in Calgary, I don't care about money and I let my agent handle that stuff, I just want to play hockey"

Rewind to last summer and we have a player who had only played 2 seasons and was a full training camp holdout with rumored asking contracts A LOT higher than he ended up getting. In the previously mentioned Spittin Chicklits podcast he was quoted as saying that the Flames dangled the 1 game, burn a year on your ELC deal with him but in hindsight he was "kind of screwed" since he never had any arb or offer sheet rights to get even a bigger contract.

It's 100% perfectly natural for players to want to maximize their earnings during their careers, it's the nature of the business. Just be open and honest about it so it doesn't rub the fans, ie: your paying customers, wrong.

In a lot of other interviews there was always the quotes of wanting to play in Calgary for his entire career but than we have quotes like the one given in the interview about playing for the Flyers.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a player dreaming about playing for their hometown team, lot's of players talk about what a dream come true it is to wear X jersey as they were fans growing up. I don't get the impression from Douggie Hamilton, Gio, Brodie, Monahan or Sam Bennett that they are itching to get traded to a Ontario based team but I do get the impression that we may lose Johnny a lot quicker than a lot of posters here want to believe. I don't know if him leaving Calgary would really bother him. It's just a DIFFERENT vibe with him than with other marque players on our roster.

Just my $0.02

[Southside]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

That's the point: there's nothing to 'know' here. You are attempting to interpret meaning in a casual answer to a casual question. Yet you have never spoken to Johnny so you can't possibly have any grounds on which to draw conclusions.

This is precisely the kind of personal intrusion that causes so many players to run from Canadian markets.

Again I didn't interpret anything. Show me my interpretation? Show me what my simple post took out of context?

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I think the thing upsets me a little more than anything is that we seem to have different sides of Johnny depending on who's asking the questions.

When he was playing in college there was always the rumor that he didn't want to sign in Calgary due to the distance from his hometown. There was always articles quoting him and his family wondering where these "rumors" came from. In the Spittin Chicklits podcast he confirmed his mom was devasted when she found out how far Calgary was compared to his hometown.

When he was on his ELC and he made it to the first 2 All-Star games there were all sorts of articles about how he was "surprised" to learn he landed this $250k bonus, and other bonus's for other performance metrics. There were lots of quote along the line of "I love playing in Calgary, I don't care about money and I let my agent handle that stuff, I just want to play hockey"

Rewind to last summer and we have a player who had only played 2 seasons and was a full training camp holdout with rumored asking contracts A LOT higher than he ended up getting. In the previously mentioned Spittin Chicklits podcast he was quoted as saying that the Flames dangled the 1 game, burn a year on your ELC deal with him but in hindsight he was "kind of screwed" since he never had any arb or offer sheet rights to get even a bigger contract.

It's 100% perfectly natural for players to want to maximize their earnings during their careers, it's the nature of the business. Just be open and honest about it so it doesn't rub the fans, ie: your paying customers, wrong.

In a lot of other interviews there was always the quotes of wanting to play in Calgary for his entire career but than we have quotes like the one given in the interview about playing for the Flyers.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a player dreaming about playing for their hometown team, lot's of players talk about what a dream come true it is to wear X jersey as they were fans growing up. I don't get the impression from Douggie Hamilton, Gio, Brodie, Monahan or Sam Bennett that they are itching to get traded to a Ontario based team but I do get the impression that we may lose Johnny a lot quicker than a lot of posters here want to believe. I don't know if him leaving Calgary would really bother him. It's just a DIFFERENT vibe with him than with other marque players on our roster.

Just my $0.02

Why focus on that when he is playing here for another 5 years? He is at a tourney promoting funds for students in need and wants them to feel good about his hometown? Why is this even newsworthy when he is signed committed to playing for the Flames? He just expressed his excitement at possibly winning a cup here?
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What more does need to do to show Calgary that he wants to play here? Johnny is honest about his feelings and Philadelphia is his first love so he says exactly what he thinks and feels. Good on him for saying exactly what he feels but still signed a contract to play with the Calgary Flames! The guy is excited to be here and is even calling and welcoming new players to the Calgary Flames.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Southside

Again I didn't interpret anything. Show me my interpretation? Show me what my simple post took out of context?

Look at your second post in this thread, you seem more concerned about the grief we would give oiler fans if McDavid said the same thing as Johnny. Do you really believe that's news worthy. I think what Johnny is doing for the community and for the underprivileged kids is more newsworthy.

[GoJetsGo]

The funny part is this "vibe" a few people keep talking about.

They're 100% making up said vibe and casting their own insecurities onto it creating something that isn't there.

If you listen to these full interviews (for example the one on Boston radio) Johnny is glowing when talking about what Calgary means to him, the opportunity he's gotten, the teammates, the direction etc.

That is a much more prevalent and genuine "vibe" if one is going to be discerned.

A few people have already mentioned it, but this is 100% an example of the inferiority complex of some in Canadian hockey fanbases and what makes them difficult markets to play in. It's much ado about nothing, reading into something that absolutely isn't there. It's dreadful to read.

[dammage79]

Old news like sureloss said. But I do believe that Gaudreau to any team near his hometown will be the worst kept secret in the league when the time comes. Much like Shattenkirk and the rangers, or Suter and Parise to Minny.