I think the Calgary fan base is the only fan base that had a segment of folks who despise him. It's quite odd to be honest given his accomplishments with the Flames. Poll the fans league wide on their opinion of Jarome Iginla and it'd be quite different from that of the Flames fan base.
I think the Calgary fan base is the only fan base that had a segment of folks who despise him. It's quite odd to be honest given his accomplishments with the Flames. Poll the fans league wide on their opinion of Jarome Iginla and it'd be quite different from that of the Flames fan base.
I wonder why that is?
This is true. We basically ran him out of town after he repeatedly stated he wanted to stay. The guy nearly carried us to a cup ring and we made him a scapegoat for our years of failure afterwards, despite his consistent dominant play. I can understand why he wouldn't want to come back. That doesn't stop me from wishing he would. He is the reason I became a hockey fan in the first place. Some of you idolize Fleury, or MacDonald, but to me Iggy will always be my favorite.
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I think the Calgary fan base is the only fan base that had a segment of folks who despise him. It's quite odd to be honest given his accomplishments with the Flames. Poll the fans league wide on their opinion of Jarome Iginla and it'd be quite different from that of the Flames fan base.
I wonder why that is?
Familiarity breeds contempt.
Sad but true.
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I think the Calgary fan base is the only fan base that had a segment of folks who despise him.
Despise? That's ridiculous. Resent what Iginla has become, and what he represents? That I would say is accurate.
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It's quite odd to be honest given his accomplishments with the Flames. Poll the fans league wide on their opinion of Jarome Iginla and it'd be quite different from that of the Flames fan base.
You might be surprised at what Pittsburgh, Colorado, or LA fans have to say about Iginla. I'm sure they will all agree that he is a great person, but I think they will not speak highly of his hockey ability like you think they will.
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I wonder why that is?
Personally, I got annoyed at the baseless mythology which has developed around the player and the baseless hero worship. It is reminiscent of the Reagan mythology conservatives have developed around the former actor president. There is a segment of the fans who think Iginla walks on water and cures disease. It is hard to continue to be supportive of something that is so detached from reality. What I'm waiting for next is the Iggy fans to start claiming Iginla's stats of his most recent seasons are "fake stats" and completely dismiss them. It has reached that level of ridiculousness where reality is being dismissed for a nostalgic past that never existed.
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This is true. We basically ran him out of town after he repeatedly stated he wanted to stay.
Iginla ran himself out of town. Iginla's play and his refusal to buy into the system made him an easy target for criticism. If his game didn't change and he didn't play for himself above the needs of the team, he wouldn't have become a target.
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The guy nearly carried us to a cup ring and we made him a scapegoat for our years of failure afterwards, despite his consistent dominant play.
See, the mythology continues to build. This happened almost 13 years ago. There were other players on that run that get little of the credit they deserve. This was all Iginla. Forget the fact that Kiprusoff was unreal. Forget the fact that Gelinas played his ass off and was clutch. Forget the job that guys like Donovan, Nieminen, and Nilson provided. Forget the incredible work that Regehr, Leopold, Lydman, and Warriner did that run. This was all Iginla. Barf.
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I can understand why he wouldn't want to come back. That doesn't stop me from wishing he would. He is the reason I became a hockey fan in the first place. Some of you idolize Fleury, or MacDonald, but to me Iggy will always be my favorite.
Good. Everyone should have a favorite player. The difference is that most people recognized when their favorite player was done. They didn't try and create this mythos around him (okay, some of the Fleury fans have, which makes Fleury's name as insufferable as Iginla's at times) and try to convince themselves, and others, that the guy can still play based on nothing but memories of some that happened 8-10 years ago. I can't wait to see Iginla retire and the Flames honor him by retiring his number. He deserves that. Maybe at that point we won't have to hear about Iginla coming back to Calgary and saving the franchise from impending playoff doom.
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Personally, I got annoyed at the baseless mythology which has developed around the player and the baseless hero worship. It is reminiscent of the Reagan mythology conservatives have developed around the former actor president. There is a segment of the fans who think Iginla walks on water and cures disease. It is hard to continue to be supportive of something that is so detached from reality. What I'm waiting for next is the Iggy fans to start claiming Iginla's stats of his most recent seasons are "fake stats" and completely dismiss them. It has reached that level of ridiculousness where reality is being dismissed for a nostalgic past that never existed.
This is my favourite part. Lol. Amazing.
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I get the nostalgia behind signing someone like Iggy to come back and play one last season in Calgary, and part of me thinks it could/would be helpful to have his toughness and that "stand up for your teammates" mentality on the team now that Engelland is gone and we cant expect Ferland to take it all on himself.
However when I think long term and start wondering about our young guys I think I would much rather prefer to keep a few spots open so that we have some young guys in the lineup for the start of this year. With 1-2 spots available I personally would rather see Lazar, Jankowski maybe even Foo playing 3rd/4th line minutes and getting some much earned experience @ the NHL level rather than plugging the lineup with old vets.
With Bouma, Chiasson gone I think the healthy competition is a welcomed sight going into training camp, I cant help but feel for the kids should they see Calgary filling those spots with wily old vets like Jagr, Iginla or god forbid Doan. Leave those 2 spots open and see what training camp brings, I think Jankowski is more than ready, Lazar definitely has something to prove and there's always someone else off the radar that surprises us every year.
Personally, I got annoyed at the baseless mythology which has developed around the player and the baseless hero worship. It is reminiscent of the Reagan mythology conservatives have developed around the former actor president. There is a segment of the fans who think Iginla walks on water and cures disease. It is hard to continue to be supportive of something that is so detached from reality. What I'm waiting for next is the Iggy fans to start claiming Iginla's stats of his most recent seasons are "fake stats" and completely dismiss them. It has reached that level of ridiculousness where reality is being dismissed for a nostalgic past that never existed.
Wow I had to read this twice. That is.... out there.
Personally, I got annoyed at the baseless mythology which has developed around the player and the baseless hero worship. It is reminiscent of the Reagan mythology conservatives have developed around the former actor president. There is a segment of the fans who think Iginla walks on water and cures disease. It is hard to continue to be supportive of something that is so detached from reality. What I'm waiting for next is the Iggy fans to start claiming Iginla's stats of his most recent seasons are "fake stats" and completely dismiss them. It has reached that level of ridiculousness where reality is being dismissed for a nostalgic past that never existed.
Despise? That's ridiculous. Resent what Iginla has become, and what he represents? That I would say is accurate.
Hmmm. What exactly does Jarome Iginla represent?
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Personally, I got annoyed at the baseless mythology which has developed around the player and the baseless hero worship. It is reminiscent of the Reagan mythology conservatives have developed around the former actor president. There is a segment of the fans who think Iginla walks on water and cures disease. It is hard to continue to be supportive of something that is so detached from reality. What I'm waiting for next is the Iggy fans to start claiming Iginla's stats of his most recent seasons are "fake stats" and completely dismiss them. It has reached that level of ridiculousness where reality is being dismissed for a nostalgic past that never existed.
"Baseless mythology"? I don't know about that. Iginla was for a number of years one the best hockey players in the world, and he was easily the most recognizable member of the Calgary Flames. In his time in Calgary he always presented himself as a consummate professional, a proud ambassador for the city, and an exceptionally affable person. I don't think there should be any surprise—and certainly not outrage(?!)—at the kinds of responses he will continue to evoke in these parts.
What a weird post.
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Iginla would be a fantastic add for this team. He can play up and down the line up and is a force on the powerplay. He brings tons of grit and leadership. Would even prefer him over versteeg.
I think ferland will do great on the gaudreau-Monahan line this season. But Iginla will be a great option if that line (or any line really) needs a change at any point in the season. He's the perfect complimentary player for a team ready to take the next step.
This team is poised to improve next year but to me it still feels like it needs another spark to become a contender. I don't think any of the other free agent wingers that people are talking about (Williams, Vrbata, etc.) bring that element. I think Iginla can bring that along with depth production. I don't think any of those other guys will bring the excitement/momentum that Iginla will bring.
Contrary to what his recent regular season and playoff performances has proven.
Denial of stats.
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Iginla was a 0.29 PPG player with the Avalanche last year. He was a 0.47 PPG player with the Kings.
What's the point of having the 3M line, all those defensemen, a goalie who can headman the puck like Smith etc if it doesn't allow you to sign offensive specialists?
Jarome is a winger. I don't care how bad he is defensively. Shelter him. Give him nights off. He wouldn't be here to win a Selke (last time a winger won this award was 2002 - Jere Lehtinen), he's here for his 20 years of experience, toughness, leadership, instincts, and his ability to finish.
Is he going to play 20 minutes a night with the top line? Of course not.
Can he pot 15 working the left point on the #1PP unit? Tell me why not.
Iginla went from playing on Colorado's third line, where he played himself, to being plunked on Kopitar's line. Yes, Iginla scored some points, but more importantly, he was a big defensive liability and made his line worse. Once Kopitar had Iginla added to his line his production faded and his line was scored on at even strength at twice the frequency it did in the first 63 games of the season. Coincidence?
Iginla was trending to -30 on the Avalanche, playing sheltered minutes. On the Kings he was trending to -39, when they tried to play him a semi-regular shift. How can anyone deny these stats and performance?
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Iginla does make sense. If i remember correctly, Gulutzan was saying on the FAN960 that the Flames were looking for a right shot winger who can take face offs. Iginla is RH and can take some FOs. Sharp was the other guy who could do that, and the Flames were close to getting him. Iggy's also still pretty scrappy(truculence!), and still has a good shot. Shouldn't be expensive at this point as well.
Dammit. I want Iggy back. Jeromer, you better be right.
The reality of of Iginla's face-off prowess. In 61 games with Colorado, Iginla took 19 face-offs. Yes, he won 12 of them. But in LA, he took 11 in 19 games and won only 4 of them.
I can go on and on because there are plenty more examples in this thread alone.
I get being a fan. I get loving the guy, because Iginla was a great guy and a model player for much of his time in Calgary. What i don't get is ignorance of the obvious. Iginla is done, even as a role player. He doesn't play the complete game and is a defensive liability for any line he plays on. If any other player, with a recent performance trend and stats of this level, were being discussed there would be instant outrage. Iginla just doesn't make sense in any shape or fashion.
Despise? That's ridiculous. Resent what Iginla has become, and what he represents? That I would say is accurate.
You resent him for aging?
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