07-11-2017, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
That's great, again, I never made any argument that Calgary is unsafe or anywhere near that. I'm just pointing out a factual inaccuracy that's already been proven to be wrong.
I get it, Calgary is safe. That does not mean there's 6 shootings a year though. Facts guys.
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Actually...it does, as long as there is no less than 6 shootings a year.
FACTS GUYS!
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07-11-2017, 11:30 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
The OP said he's recently seen it being reported that there's been a shooting happening "weekly or so" there's been 7 shootings in less than 2 months. Most people would consider that "weekly or so." At least for the near past. OP was not wrong with his assertion.
PepsiFree stated it only happens 6 times a year, an entirely inaccurate number that's already been proven to be wrong. We're looking at probably 20 already this year.
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Actually he didn't say recently.
This is just par for the course from him, and you're eating it up.
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07-11-2017, 01:28 PM
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#23
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Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15
Actually he didn't say recently.
This is just par for the course from him, and you're eating it up.
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Says the guy thanking the entirely inaccurate number of 6 times a year while mocking the OP. We've already shown you that the number, at least for the current time, is completely bogus. Just because you don't like the OP doesn't mean we need to make up bull#### numbers and argue against his point. Gun violence is up. Ironically, PepsiFree would have been a lot closer with his assertion only a couple years ago, but there's something to be said about the gun violence lately. Yes, Calgary is still safe, but that doesn't mean that firearm crimes aren't way up compared to, say, a decade ago, that goes beyond population growth. Again, that doesn't mean Calgary is unsafe...it's just a fact, take it however you want but don't argue against it. Take a look at this stretch in just over 2 months that is possibly missing a couple incidents:
Sunday, May 7 - Mid-day Tuxedo shooting.
Monday, May 8 - Random driveby shooting on Centre Street Bridge.
Saturday, May 20 - Early morning Elbow Drive shooting
Sunday, May 21 - Superstore double homicide.
Saturday, June 3 - Forest Lawn basketball shooting that killed murder suspect Toy.
Sunday, June 25 - Music nightclub parking lot shooting.
Tuesday, June 27 - Sunalta apartment shooting.
Thursday, June 29 - Beltline shooting, man shot in his car.
Tuesday, July 11 - 16th Ave shooting
How many other 2 month stretches in Calgary History had this much firearm crimes? There's something to be said when PepsiFree believes that Calgary experiences 6 shootings a year, and in a two month period there was at least 9. Something is up, Bouw N Arrow has a point. A lot of people who left Calgary would have never expected to see something like that. Hell, PepsiFree from Calgary will apparently be surprised to see this has been the case this year.
Calgary reported the highest increase in crime in 2015 of any municipality. Of course it's easy to understand why with the depression and the fentanyl crisis. Calgary's crime rate isn't quite linear. It's never been a surprise that Alberta's crime rate also tends to follow its economy. We're in a down stretch, so crime has been trending up. We saw the same thing with other depressions. Does that explain the increase gun violence though?
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07-11-2017, 01:32 PM
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#24
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You're cranky today.
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07-11-2017, 01:36 PM
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#25
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Calgary
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Calgary is certainly becoming a rougher city as the days pass
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07-11-2017, 01:36 PM
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#26
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I've personally been involved in lots of shooting the last few weeks. Definite increase from the norm. Managed to avoid getting shot in the face, thankfully (it stings).
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07-11-2017, 01:36 PM
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#27
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Lots of lowlifes around, that's for sure.
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07-11-2017, 01:38 PM
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#28
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Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15
You're cranky today.
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I'm just at a lost. Do you dislike OP that much that you can't see his point?
OP: Hey guys, what's up with the increase gun violence in Calgary since I left, seems like it's once a week?
PF: There's 6 shootings a year.
HG: You sure you aren't just rereading the same tweet? Herp derp!
Actual facts: 20 shootings in Calgary half way through the year.
Yet, somehow you just don't want to admit that Calgary is seeing an increase in firearm violence because you don't like Bouw N Arrow shtick of some sort? I don't get it, you're better than that. I mean, my first post was just to point out there's been a lot more than 6 shootings this year there was no implication, no argument, just facts, and you decided the need to jump on that for some reason.
If you don't want to be baited by Bouw N Arrow, maybe stay out of his threads and mock him? Apparently he's your masterbaiter.
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07-11-2017, 01:38 PM
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#30
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Originally Posted by MRCboicgy
I've personally been involved in lots of shooting the last few weeks. Definite increase from the norm. Managed to avoid getting shot in the face, thankfully (it stings).
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I don't recall seeing this tweeted by a news outlet, and I don't recall reading any stories about it in the news. This is really going to skew the numbers.
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07-11-2017, 01:41 PM
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#31
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MRCboicgy
I've personally been involved in lots of shooting the last few weeks. Definite increase from the norm. Managed to avoid getting shot in the face, thankfully (it stings).
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Thats absolutely frightening to hear. I have actually considered moving from our city. With the growing violence and our oil industry in complete disarray, I can't see myself staying my whole life
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07-11-2017, 01:43 PM
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#32
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You know what Hockeyguy15's convince me. There's only 6 shootings a year. Looks like Bouw N Arrow's reading FakeNews #SAD #ParTheCourse
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07-11-2017, 01:44 PM
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#33
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ALL ABOARD!
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The serious replies to MRCboicgy have made my day.
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07-11-2017, 01:50 PM
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#34
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
I'm just at a lost. Do you dislike OP that much that you can't see his point?
OP: Hey guys, what's up with the increase gun violence in Calgary since I left, seems like it's once a week?
PF: There's 6 shootings a year.
HG: You sure you aren't just rereading the same tweet? Herp derp!
Actual facts: 20 shootings in Calgary half way through the year.
Yet, somehow you just don't want to admit that Calgary is seeing an increase in firearm violence because you don't like Bouw N Arrow shtick of some sort? I don't get it, you're better than that. I mean, my first post was just to point out there's been a lot more than 6 shootings this year there was no implication, no argument, just facts, and you decided the need to jump on that for some reason.
If you don't want to be baited by Bouw N Arrow, maybe stay out of his threads and mock him? Apparently he's your masterbaiter.
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First of all you're way too serious about this. I suppose you didn't take my "if only there were stats to back this up" comment the tongue in cheek way I had intended it.
At no point have I said gun violence hasn't increased since he moved. I just take his post as a bit of a troll since he's the same guy who wanted to come back home to take his girlfriend to A&W and Edo.
Lastly I could care less, but it's at a loss. As in I'm at a loss why you're getting upset over this.
Edit: No MRC. I wanted it that way. MRC Edit: sorry, got you mixed up with Fuzz.
Last edited by MRCboicgy; 07-11-2017 at 01:55 PM.
Reason: grammar help for hg15
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07-11-2017, 01:52 PM
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#35
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
You know what Hockeyguy15's convince me. There's only 6 shootings a year. Looks like Bouw N Arrow's reading FakeNews #SAD #ParTheCourse
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There could be more, depending if we can confirm how many times MRC was shot at. I'm not sure if we will get to the bottom of it.
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07-11-2017, 01:52 PM
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#36
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
You know what Hockeyguy15's convince me. There's only 6 shootings a year. Looks like Bouw N Arrow's reading FakeNews #SAD #ParTheCourse
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I'm not entirely convinced you are convinced.
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07-11-2017, 01:55 PM
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#37
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15
There could be more, depending if we can confirm how many times MRC was shot at. I'm not sure if we will get to the bottom of it.
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Honest question, do we count each individual incident or would multiple incidents in certain timeframe count as one?
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07-11-2017, 01:55 PM
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#38
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First Line Centre
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In all seriousness there has been a marked increase in gun violence since the downturn commenced.
I saw a drive-by on Stephen Ave that could have easily resulted in the death of many bystanders that were standing around. It's not the greatest feeling to see that in your city.
I'm not sure what the answer is - tighter gun control measures? Tougher sentencing against these losers?
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07-11-2017, 01:58 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15
First of all you're way too serious about this. I suppose you didn't take my "if only there were stats to back this up" comment the tongue in cheek way I had intended it.
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I'm not upset in the slightest. I literally responded to PepsiFree's claim of 6 shootings a year was entirely inaccurate with the shootings that happened in 2 weeks. That was it. It was based on facts. There was no nefarious purpose, there was no emotional breakdown. If anything, I thought it was nice that PepsiFree was so optimistic that he believes Calgary is even that much safer but again he was completely wrong and a pretty stupid claim given the news lately. You were the one who felt the need to try and make something out of it, as though there was something said more than there was. Which again, I responded to with more facts and more shootings that have occurred. It sounds to me like you're upset that Bouw N Arrow actually has a point and you don't like his mocking of Calgary in another thread?
Apparently for pointing out that PepsiFree was wrong, I landed in one of Bouw N Arrow's classical traps.
Last edited by Oling_Roachinen; 07-11-2017 at 02:03 PM.
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07-11-2017, 01:59 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
I'm not upset in the slightest. I literally responded to PepsiFree's claim of 6 shootings a year was entirely inaccurate with the shootings that happened in 2 weeks. That was it. It was based on facts. There was no nefarious purpose, there was no emotional breakdown. If anything, I thought it was nice that PepsiFree was so optimistic that he believes Calgary is even that much safer but again he was completely wrong and a pretty stupid claim given the news lately.
Apparently for pointing out that PepsiFree was wrong, I landed in one of Bouw N Arrow's classical traps. 
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Apology accepted, I forgive you.
Edit: Well since you changed your post I feel inclined to revise my statement. All I replied to you was the actual number was somewhere between 6 and once a week. With a joke about it being impossible to back up with stats. That's when you got cranky.
Apology unaccepted.
Last edited by Hockeyguy15; 07-11-2017 at 02:05 PM.
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