Omar F*****G Khadr is getting $10.5 milion

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Zarley

It's interesting to see how negatively the public is viewing this settlement. There's strong opposition to it across all sectors.


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Surprise, surprise, people are morons. I prefer a government who will listen to their legal advisers and make the difficult political decision to settle instead of wasting the taxpayers' time and money on frivolous litigation which they have little chance of winning just to score some cheap political points.

[Baron von Kriterium]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

Soldier.

By what definition?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Surprise, surprise, people are morons. I prefer a government who will listen to their legal advisers and make the difficult political decision to settle instead of wasting the taxpayers' time and money on frivolous litigation which they have little chance of winning just to score some cheap political points.

To be quite honest, doing so would probably have been one of the less expensive examples of wasting money for cheap political points we've seen in a while.

That said, I am one of the 9% on the right who supports this outcome - even if one might wonder if the settlement itself could have been lower. We don't get to be complicit in the torture of one of our citizens without consequence.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by Baron von Kriterium

By what definition?

Did you post that question when labelled terrorist?

[Baron von Kriterium]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

Did you post that question when labelled terrorist?

I'm asking you how you define a 'soldier'. I am not a terrorist, so I don't particularly care. But I am a soldier, and I'm curious about how you define 'soldier'.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Well, I wouldn't label him a soldier, as there is definitely a level of professionalism and codes of conduct for soldiers...

a rebel fighter maybe?

I think a 'terrorist' is more a label for those who knowingly attack civilian targets whereby the goal is to incite terror within the population...I haven't seen any evidence that Khadr did that... only that he was a combatant.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Baron von Kriterium

I'm asking you how you define a 'soldier'. I am not a terrorist, so I don't particularly care. But I am a soldier, and I'm curious about how you define 'soldier'.

By definition, to be a terrorist you have to commit an act of terrorism. He was seen making bombs to be used against enemy forces, while that makes him an enemy in that conflict, it doesn't make him a terrorist. Even if he threw the grenade that killed Speers, that's not terrorism, it happened during a war battle.

[EldrickOnIce]

Traitor works

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Baron von Kriterium

I am not a terrorist

Says you, Baron. In fact, that is exactly what a sleeper cell terrorist would have us believe.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Traitor works

15 year old traitor. That's seems like the fairest description to me.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Makarov

15 year old traitor. That's seems like the fairest description to me.

Fair point

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Makarov

15 year old traitor. That's seems like the fairest description to me.

Who moved to Afghanistan at age 10 so he could kill Americans, of course.

[northcrunk]

16 is legal to have sex in Canada but not be considered an enemy combatant?

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by Baron von Kriterium

I'm asking you how you define a 'soldier'. I am not a terrorist, so I don't particularly care. But I am a soldier, and I'm curious about how you define 'soldier'.

Fair enough. I guess I would define a soldier as someone who is in an organized group that fights for something: money, freedom, beliefs, justice.

Do you believe he fits that description?

[V]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Who moved to Afghanistan at age 10 so he could kill Americans, of course.

Just Americans? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have had a problem killing Canadians either.

Traitor is definitely the right word.

[V]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

Fair enough. I guess I would define a soldier as someone who is in an organized group that fights for something: money, freedom, beliefs, justice.

Do you believe he fits that description?

Maybe mercenary. Canadian citizen fighting Canadians is not something I'd call a Soldier.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Baron von Kriterium

By what definition?

According to the United Nations at https://childrenandarmedconflict.un....ild-soldiers/:

Definition of a child soldier

A child associated with an armed force or armed group refers to any person below 18 years of age who is, or who has been, recruited or used by an armed force or armed group in any capacity, including but not limited to children, boys and girls, used as fighters, cooks, porters, spies or for sexual purposes.
(Source: Paris Principles on the Involvement of Children in Armed Conflict 2007)

LGen, the Hon. Roméo Dallaire (Ret’d) considers Khadr to have been a child soldier. Not only is he one of the foremost experts on child soldiers in the world, he's also a retired Canadian Lieutenant-General.

If you disagree with the United Nation's and LGen, the Hon. Dallaire (Ret’d) that's perfectly fine, but understand you're disagreeing with a legal fact akin to disagreeing that people shouldn't be tortured or everyone should have the right to a fair trial.

[Zarley]

I sure wouldn't want to argue with LGen, the Hon. Roméo Dallaire (Ret’d).

[Coys1882]

Follow up to Q-Scout on Romeo Dallaire:

https://www.childsoldiers.org/statement-on-omar-khadr/

[northcrunk]

Khadr passing from his injuries sadly would have made this a lot easier.