Omar F*****G Khadr is getting $10.5 milion

[CaptainCrunch]

They pretty much rushed to get the money into his hands to beat the US Courts restraining order. It sounds almost like the money was in his hands before the story broke.

I would expect that there will be a lawsuit filed against Khadr in the coming days by Speer's widow and the other wounded soldier.

[Northendzone]

is there any way for him to move the money to someplace where it can't be reached (like the classic offshore accounts mentioned on tv shows and movies) by any judgments issued against him by US courts or Canadian civil courts?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

is there any way for him to move the money to someplace where it can't be reached (like the classic offshore accounts mentioned on tv shows and movies) by any judgments issued against him by US courts or Canadian civil courts?

Someone smarter then me can comment.


But I don't think that works as well as it used to. The mythical concept of the whole numbered accounts, or offshore accounts protecting your assets has been killed, most banks now fully cooperate with governments, and the ability to cyber investigate means that they know where your money has gone etc.

Plus Khadr vanishing that money wouldn't help his cause at all of proving that he's reformed.

The first question would be . . . so your money is gone, how much did you give to ISIS.

[Bootsy]

I was just listening to 770 and Danielle Smith said it was leaked that the Federal government rushed the $10.5 million payment to Khadr once they found out the Speer family was filing for an injunction. If this is true then that is disgusting.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Bootsy

I was just listening to 770 and Danielle Smith said it was leaked that the Federal government rushed the $10.5 million payment to Khadr once they found out the Speer family was filing for an injunction. If this is true then that is disgusting.

I also read some conservative news that this was all a done deal a while ago but the PM's office delayed it past Canada 150 to avoid negativity on that day and bad publicity, and to avoid tough questions at question period.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Bootsy

I was just listening to 770 and Danielle Smith said it was leaked that the Federal government rushed the $10.5 million payment to Khadr once they found out the Speer family was filing for an injunction. If this is true then that is disgusting.

Why? The government wants this settled. Why would they want to have to fight an injunction made on behalf of a foreign party in court when they don't have to.

[Tfong]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Actually that's when I know we've done something right. You realize this kid didn't hop on a plane and fly to Afghanistan on his own to join the jihad right? His parents brought him there when he was 13. We grant all kinds of special legal protection to minors simply because they aren't operating under the same autonomy adults are. Go have sex with a fifteen year old and see what happens. Yet people like you think the kid is patently evil. It's so stupid. Do you think he's a threat now? Do you think he would have done what he did had he not been raised by awful people? Do you think we should torture other fifteen year old killers? Maybe that 12 year old girl who killed her parents in Lethbridge should have been denied due process and legal counsel and sleep. That'd show her.

The only embarrassing part of this is that we got sucked in by the Americans and their stupid war on nothing. We didn't stand up for our own legal right and we got caught. That's embarrassing. Listening to smart people get this wrong is also embarrassing.

Actually I think he is a huge threat to us. When you've been in a taliban camp from ages 9-15, odds are you've been indoctrinated to their agenda or helping support their forces through civilian labour. I wouldn't trust this guy at all. Legally he is "our own" sure but there is no way I would ever trust this guy. Not only is he now a symbol of victory for Jihadist, we have "our own" people split on opinions about him. He is protected now by the judicial systems put in place that are doing so in error.

Also for background information, I also do not support special legal protection for minors at all in the first place.

This could've all been avoided however if OC-1 had killed him properly. Not even an issue if he was dead or in a Afghan prison instead of being transferred to Gitmo.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Tfong

Also for background information, I also do not support special legal protection for minors at all in the first place.

This could've all been avoided however if OC-1 had killed him properly. Not even an issue if he was dead or in a Afghan prison instead of being transferred to Gitmo.

Boy, you sound like a real gem.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Bootsy

I was just listening to 770 and Danielle Smith said it was leaked that the Federal government rushed the $10.5 million payment to Khadr once they found out the Speer family was filing for an injunction. If this is true then that is disgusting.

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I also read some conservative news that this was all a done deal a while ago but the PM's office delayed it past Canada 150 to avoid negativity on that day and bad publicity, and to avoid tough questions at question period.

Hmmmm!

[Tfong]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Boy, you sound like a real gem.

I'm not mainstream definitely.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Tfong

Not only is he now a symbol of victory for Jihadist.

He has publicly denounced jihadists.

Also for background information, I also do not support special legal protection for minors at all in the first place.

Wow, do you also oppose the concept of laws like a legal drinking age or age of consent?

This could've all been avoided however if OC-1 had killed him properly. Not even an issue if he was dead or in a Afghan prison instead of being transferred to Gitmo.

Killed him properly? They shot him and made a choice to rather than leave him to die try and torture some information out of him instead.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Wow, do you also oppose the concept of laws like a legal drinking age or age of consent?

Pfft...whatever. Everyone knows a 9 year-old's brain is fully developed and mature enough to comprehend the consequences of their choices. Stop being such a ####.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Tfong

Actually I think he is a huge threat to us. When you've been in a taliban camp from ages 9-15, odds are you've been indoctrinated to their agenda or helping support their forces through civilian labour. I wouldn't trust this guy at all. Legally he is "our own" sure but there is no way I would ever trust this guy. Not only is he now a symbol of victory for Jihadist, we have "our own" people split on opinions about him. He is protected now by the judicial systems put in place that are doing so in error.

.

Hopefully the Criminal Code is amended soon to change the Crown's burden of proof from "committed an offence beyond a reasonable doubt" to "I don't trust this guy".

Also for background information, I also do not support special legal protection for minors at all in the first place.

This post would generate lots of interesting discussion in the child pornograpjy thread.

This could've all been avoided however if OC-1 had killed him properly. Not even an issue if he was dead or in a Afghan prison instead of being transferred to Gitmo.

Well, yes, that's sort of self-evident.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Tfong

I'm not mainstream definitely.

I can tell. The amount of edge required to hide behind a troll or sockpuppet account you registered four years ago but trotted out for the first time today is off the charts.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

He has publicly denounced jihadists.

Calgary is Aerosmith's favourite city to play in. At least that's what they said on the mic...


We can all hope that he is reformed, but we really have no idea. I'm not sure how a couple years of being treated less poorly in a Canadian prison erase 15 years of youth indoctrination + 10 years of Gitmo hospitality...

It would be pretty damn surprising if he was fully aboard the Team Canada bandwagon at this point...

Not sure dropping $10M in his hands is the way to help him towards a 'normal' life, either...


And FWIW, I'm pretty damn sympathetic to him and his situation. But this still stinks to me.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by Tfong

Actually I think he is a huge threat to us. When you've been in a taliban camp from ages 9-15, odds are you've been indoctrinated to their agenda or helping support their forces through civilian labour. I wouldn't trust this guy at all.

That's a wildly unusual opinion of human nature. Guys joining ISIS have nothing to lose. They're poor, persecuted and hopeless. Khadr has a choice. He can literally go back to his mud hut in his crap bucket country (not being pejorative here, they literally blew him out of a mud hut). Or, he can live in a free country (albeit Edmonton) and go to nursing school with ten million bucks in the bank. No one is going to take option a no matter how much brain washing they had as a kid. The myth of Osama Bin Laden giving up hundreds of millions for his cause is in fact that, a myth.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Hmmmm!

To be fair, I believe CTV broke the story first.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

To be fair, I believe CTV broke the story first.

I can't find the story on CTV but I don't have any reason to doubt it. I guess I'm not sure how particularly relevant it is. Maybe it's too early in the day for me and my brain hasn't woken up yet, but what exactly would the injunction have accomplished other than holding up proceedings?

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Bootsy

I was just listening to 770 and Danielle Smith said it was leaked that the Federal government rushed the $10.5 million payment to Khadr once they found out the Speer family was filing for an injunction. If this is true then that is disgusting.

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I also read some conservative news that this was all a done deal a while ago but the PM's office delayed it past Canada 150 to avoid negativity on that day and bad publicity, and to avoid tough questions at question period.

Well, was it rushed or was it delayed?

[RougeUnderoos]

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