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Old 06-28-2017, 11:45 AM   #181
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[QUOTE=FlamesAddiction;6308185]You have to consider that whomever McDavid plays with will likely be more productive as a result. Just like Gaudreau and Monahan help each other. McDavid might get between 100-125 points himself per season in the next few seasons, but he will probably add another 50-75 vicariously through his teammates.

That goes for any high end player...13.5M you better be flirting with 120+ points. Pressure is on, I think teams will really be trying to shut down McDavid like in the playoffs...especially as their depth dwindles
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Old 06-28-2017, 11:46 AM   #182
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The Canadian buck could play a big role in the viability of this contract. A weak loonie likely means stagnant revenues and a stagnant cap. The cap can only go the direction of revenues, and if league wide revenues take a dive, the big contracts will be the ones that hurt the most. The Canadian buck goes down and the Oilers could be doubly screwed.
So for this contract to really bomb out we need to encourage the American's to make Trump a two term president.
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Old 06-28-2017, 11:46 AM   #183
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Cue the massive cap-cripping offer-sheet to Draisaitl!
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other GM's have to see where the Oilers breaking point is cap figure wise.

9 million bucks to Drai will pretty much cripple the Oilers cap wise.
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Old 06-28-2017, 11:47 AM   #185
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The Art Ross should go to Edmonton's Stat counters who, I would presume, are No Good.
Sam Gagne's 8 point night says hi

(Gagne turns over the puck, that player turns it back over to another Oiler who scores)

Yep that's a point
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Old 06-28-2017, 11:48 AM   #186
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How will Connor McDavid be a burden? If he's playing with one arm and one leg maybe. The amount of money he makes that franchise is a drop in the bucket compared to what they're paying him.
This is the thing, I wouldnt use the term 'burden' but maybe 'less effective?'

McDavid was 4th in the NHL in Ice-Time per game at 21:07 per game.
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?aggr...meOnIcePerGame

Getzlaf is right behind him so maybe its sustainable, but its something to think about.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:00 PM   #187
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McGuire: Teams will offer sheet Draisaitl if McDavid makes $13.25M
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:05 PM   #188
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McGuire: Teams will offer sheet Draisaitl if McDavid makes $13.25M
as they should. GMs are probably still a bit bitter after the McDavid lottery, plus the Oilers themselves have embraced offer sheets in the past (Penner, Vanek).

It'd be hilarious if they lost Draisaitl or entered cap hell. I'd laugh in both cases.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:05 PM   #189
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McGuire: Teams will offer sheet Draisaitl if McDavid makes $13.25M
And they absolutely should
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Teams should definitely offer sheet Draisaitl, because Chiarelli already said he'll match any offer sheet... so essentially, there's no risk that the other team will have to sign him or give-up draft picks. It's just a matter of screwing up the Oiler's salary cap structure.

Assuming Chiarelli was telling the truth about matching offer sheets...
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McGuire: Teams will offer sheet Draisaitl if McDavid makes $13.25M
Won't it help the Oilers out if a team offer sheets Draisaitl for $9M. It'll save them from a ridiculous overpayment, they get 2 1st rounders and a 2nd, and they can spend a more reasonable amount (~$6M) on a proven winger for much cheaper.

I get that Draisaitl is a wonderful prospect but he's definitely not worth close to $10M at this point. The team that signs him to that offer sheet will be much worse off!
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:08 PM   #192
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If teams don't happen to offer sheet him, Flames should send one to Leon just to force them to match and ensure cap hell.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:09 PM   #193
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Man would it be great to see the Oil have to pony up to keep Draisaitl after backing up the truck to keep McLotto.

I like Draisaitl as a player but think he's been boosted by playing with McDavid. With what they pay those two, keeping them together on a line will have their other 3 lines suffer, and splitting them up will see Draisaitl struggle to keep pace without McDavid.

Combine that with the cap crunch that puts them in and their inability to draft and make good decisions, and they will be a one-trick pony for years to come.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:09 PM   #195
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I'll be somewhat irked if Treliving doesn't offer sheet Draisatl.

Edit: Wait. Never mind. We don't have the picks to do it.
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If teams don't happen to offer sheet him, Flames should send one to Leon just to force them to match and ensure cap hell.


Can't, they no longer have the picks to submit one
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:10 PM   #197
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Won what? Won the debate because there is a debate.. Very odd post.

I don't think anyone in the league including Crosby would take Crosby over McDavid to start a franchise because of age. That has very to do with the debate over who is the best player now,
"Very odd post". Passive aggressive much? Disappointed too that Irish Spring didn't have something better to add. Usually he is the resident critic of people's posting styles.

My point is that after two years, McDavid is being debated as to whether he's currently better than the reigning player of his generation so I guess it's just a matter of time barring something unforeseen. Do the Pens win the Stanley Cup last year with McDavid instead of Crosby? I wouldn't bet against it but the veteran Crosby is clearly still a better playoff performer.

What is your take on the subject?
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:10 PM   #198
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I would imagine that there is absolutely no sympathy for the Oilers among the other management groups. The way they tanked, and continued to tank, and then tanked some more, until McDavid fell in their laps - despite the league having to change the rules to avoid it - has no doubt left a bitter taste around the league.

And of course there is also the history of the Oilers issuing offer sheets themselves.

So I have little doubt that there would be at least a few teams that would, given the opportunity, not mind sticking it to the Oilers a little bit.
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If teams don't happen to offer sheet him, Flames should send one to Leon just to force them to match and ensure cap hell.
I don't believe the Flames have the requisite picks to be able to tender an offer sheet.
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Dreaming of a offer sheet is fun as a flames fan, but not sure if teams out there would want to pony up 9M bucks for Draisaitl just yet.
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