06-22-2017, 09:49 PM
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#501
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Ass Handler
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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
Look at his shooting percentage this season compared to last
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I'm confident he pots 30 playing with Gaudreau.
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06-22-2017, 09:52 PM
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#502
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Franchise Player
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Please no more big money UFA winger signings.
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06-22-2017, 09:53 PM
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#503
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
I'm confident he pots 30 playing with Gaudreau.
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I'm not. Nobody shoots at 24% sustainably and he's never had 200+ shots in a season.
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06-22-2017, 11:29 PM
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#504
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
Please no to Oshie. Let someone else give him 6m AAV
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Please no to Oshie. Let the Oilers give him 8m AAV
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06-22-2017, 11:34 PM
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#505
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
I'm not. Nobody shoots at 24% sustainably and he's never had 200+ shots in a season.
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He's still a very consistent 50-60 point player in his career whose excellent defensively. He'd fit very well imo.
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06-22-2017, 11:45 PM
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#506
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by jonkaupp
He's still a very consistent 50-60 point player in his career whose excellent defensively. He'd fit very well imo.
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Not for the price and term he's going to look for while taking advantage of free agency.
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06-22-2017, 11:46 PM
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#507
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Powerplay Quarterback
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The issue with Oshie isn't the player, it's the contract. If he would sign for 4 years at $4.5m then I would be all over it, but he is going to get 6 years at $6m and that contract is going to suck on the back end of it.
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06-22-2017, 11:51 PM
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#508
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Franchise Player
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If something home grown doesn't pan out they're Going to have to pull the trigger on something like this within the next couple years I'm guessing. I'm internet lazy again, but who are the RW free agents in 2018 and 2019. Notable ones that should say.
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06-22-2017, 11:51 PM
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#509
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In the Sin Bin
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Big thing is Oshie is American. Does anybody really think out of anywhere he could play in the league that he'd pick Calgary? The chances of him wanting to come here are slim and none IMO. I think we can re-sign Americans who have played here and end up liking it (see Conroy.) But to straight up sign an American UFA who's never played in Canada? Just super unlikely. Not gonna happen. Don't get your hopes up. Not realistic at all.
I think the chances of him signing in Vegas are more likely than Calgary. But probably he picks a contending American team and I don't blame him. Very few American UFAs would be looking to sign in a cold Canadian city. I don't think we really need to entertain the idea of Oshie it's so unrealistic IMO.
The only big name UFAs we could attract are Canadian and European IMO. I think we have little to no chance of ever signing a big name American UFA.
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06-22-2017, 11:57 PM
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#510
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by memphusk
If something home grown doesn't pan out they're Going to have to pull the trigger on something like this within the next couple years I'm guessing. I'm internet lazy again, but who are the RW free agents in 2018 and 2019. Notable ones that should say.
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Eh I wouldn't put the focus on UFAs. Its so hard for Calgary to compete for them. Basically the only way we can attract them is to overpay and best all offers (unless they're Albertan or have ties to Alberta). And as I talked about above you might as well rule out American UFAs who've never played in Canada.
Once we're looking like a contender the easiest way to add a big goalscoring threat is to trade for one at the trade deadline or trade for one during a summer.
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06-23-2017, 12:08 AM
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#511
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Big thing is Oshie is American. Does anybody really think out of anywhere he could play in the league that he'd pick Calgary? The chances of him wanting to come here are slim and none IMO. I think we can re-sign Americans who have played here and end up liking it (see Conroy.) But to straight up sign an American UFA who's never played in Canada? Just super unlikely. Not gonna happen. Don't get your hopes up. Not realistic at all.
I think the chances of him signing in Vegas are more likely than Calgary. But probably he picks a contending American team and I don't blame him. Very few American UFAs would be looking to sign in a cold Canadian city. I don't think we really need to entertain the idea of Oshie it's so unrealistic IMO.
The only big name UFAs we could attract are Canadian and European IMO. I think we have little to no chance of ever signing a big name American UFA.
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Agree on Oshie and with what you're saying in general, but perhaps if the team progresses to contender status and Gaudreau continues increasing in star power, he might help attract possible American free agents. Playing on a line with one of the best American players in the league who's going to set you up left and right might increase our chances much more than we're there at now or in the past few years. There's a chance as time goes on some of them will play with him for Team USA in some incarnation as well which could help.
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06-23-2017, 12:17 AM
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#512
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Agree on Oshie and with what you're saying in general, but perhaps if the team progresses to contender status and Gaudreau continues increasing in star power, he might help attract possible American free agents. Playing on a line with one of the best American players in the league who's going to set you up left and right might increase our chances much more than we're there at now or in the past few years. There's a chance as time goes on some of them will play with him for Team USA in some incarnation as well which could help.
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Might have maybe been nice if Johnny got to play team USA at the WCOH instead of team NA.
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06-23-2017, 03:48 AM
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#513
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Franchise Player
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Every time I see Bennett mentioned in some rumor....
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06-23-2017, 04:29 AM
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#514
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Amsterdam
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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
I'm confident he pots 30 playing with Gaudreau.
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Im confident Ferland pots 30 with Gaudreau next year. Probably lower cost than Oshie with some toughness
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06-23-2017, 07:08 AM
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#515
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Eh I wouldn't put the focus on UFAs. Its so hard for Calgary to compete for them. Basically the only way we can attract them is to overpay and best all offers (unless they're Albertan or have ties to Alberta). And as I talked about above you might as well rule out American UFAs who've never played in Canada.
Once we're looking like a contender the easiest way to add a big goalscoring threat is to trade for one at the trade deadline or trade for one during a summer.
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If you can make that read to start the season, I can see it working. Making that trade at the deadline never sees to work out for any team.
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06-23-2017, 07:21 AM
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#516
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
Every time I see Bennett mentioned in some rumor....

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06-23-2017, 07:26 AM
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#517
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Ok then....after getting a #4 D, a backup, a #5 D and some other stuff, getting a legit top line RW would be really good. Who do you think is available, what do you think it would take to get him? who would be ideal to get?
I still think Evander Kane would be a great fit, especially if the sabres are looking to trade him. Of course it would depend on if he'd want to play in Calgary long term, if he won't then it's not worth trading for one year of him.
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Last edited by Poe969; 06-23-2017 at 07:51 AM.
Reason: I still think it would nice to have a legit first line RW...
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06-23-2017, 07:41 AM
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#518
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
I think most will agree that a legit first line RW is what this team needs the most. Who do you think is available, what do you think it would take to get him? who would be ideal to get?
I still think Evander Kane would be a great fit, especially if the sabres are looking to trade him. Of course it would depend on if he'd want to play in Calgary long term, if he won't then it's not worth trading for one year of him.
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I highly doubt "most" would agree with that.
Until Stone is re-signed, or someone like Hamonic traded for, #4 Dman is by far the Flames biggest need.
Then I'd argue that a 5th legit Dman and even a back up goalie are more needed right now than a legit top line RW.
A back up goalie is going to play close to 30 games, and that's if Smith stays 100% healthy, and even with Stone or Hamonic, the most experienced D the Flames have after the top 4 is Bartkowski.
Meanwhile, with Ferland on the top line last year both Monahan and Gaudreau were point per game + players while Ferland scored on a 25+ goal pace. Just by re-signing all our RFA's the Flames right now have a full compliment of forwards, and it's the same group that made the playoffs last season, with most of the key guys being under 25 years old and likely to improve.
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06-23-2017, 07:48 AM
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#519
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Yup Kerr said feeling around team is that getting a winger is very much on the back burner for the Flames. Big focus on getting a top 4-dman
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06-23-2017, 08:21 AM
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#520
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Yup Kerr said feeling around team is that getting a winger is very much on the back burner for the Flames. Big focus on getting a top 4-dman
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That says a few things to me. First, Stone mustn't want to sign with the Flames, or is asking for the stars, making them look at other options. Second, Treliving recognizes that Smith needs a great defense in front of him, or he turns into a big sieve. Third, the Flames believe they have enough scoring in the lineup or expect some players to improve and chip in more goals. Fourth, they don't have the assets to pull off a deal for both players and have prioritized defense above offense. Might mean this could be a boring team to watch this winter as they rely on defense to make the difference.
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