06-21-2017, 03:11 PM
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#361
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
Forgot about waivers. But still, whether it's Shinkaruk or Kulak or someone else, you can get a 3rd, 4th or 5th for somebody, or plug a position in your farm. Zero reason to not get another asset.
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You only can if someone is willing to trade you.
I personally feel these guys have zero value outside Calgary fans. Every team has 3-4 of these type players.
In 2 years both could easily be out of the NHL and playing in Europe!
Clearly they hold less value then LV placed on signing Eng.
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06-21-2017, 03:12 PM
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#362
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Interesting team thus far. Certainly not the team that I would be building. Looks like they will be a draft lottery team for quite a few years.
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06-21-2017, 03:12 PM
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#363
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
I think it's disgusting that this stuff is out there before tonight. It should not be part of the event if everyone knows who was picked.
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Hockey is like a small town. Word gets around fast.
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06-21-2017, 03:14 PM
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#364
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Why do you think they are odd? I think both are very reasonable.
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Someone has to play in the AHL I suppose.
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06-21-2017, 03:15 PM
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#365
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
I think it's disgusting that this stuff is out there before tonight. It should not be part of the event if everyone knows who was picked.
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Tim Horton's breakfast sandwiches, ketchup on steak, and walking in on your parents having sex are all things that are "disgusting." Leaked expansion draft selections are, at most, a minor inconvenience to the NHL and their big show. I'd rather have them be leaked so I can move on with my life and watch something more important than the NHL Awards like House Hunters International.
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06-21-2017, 03:16 PM
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#366
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
I think it's disgusting that this stuff is out there before tonight. It should not be part of the event if everyone knows who was picked.
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They may have had a chance if they didn't inform the players ahead of time. Buy once they decided to inform players and agents it was all going to leak out.
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06-21-2017, 03:16 PM
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#367
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
Why not Engelland + another asset? Or are you that worried that the other 30 teams are going to be banging down his door to sign him on July 1?
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There's always something to be said for getting an exclusive negotiating window. Lots of times teams sign players in such a window.
A signed Engelland is probably worth 3 times more than anybody else we exposed. Plus VGK may be looking to corner the defenseman market for the next couple days leading up to the entry draft. They can literally control the trade market on defensemen for quite some time.
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06-21-2017, 03:16 PM
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#368
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Franchise Player
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honestly is probably going to be the worst team in league history, and it seems like that is their intention
Last edited by Ashasx; 07-18-2021 at 03:48 PM.
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06-21-2017, 03:18 PM
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#369
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Come on George, you know you want to give Matt Moulson a shot. Or get some girtty leadership on the back end with Josh Gorges...
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06-21-2017, 03:18 PM
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#370
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
I think it's disgusting that this stuff is out there before tonight. It should not be part of the event if everyone knows who was picked.
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The league blew it, just as they did with the jerseys yesterday.
This while month has made the league look very mickey mouse. The draft listed should have been revealed by the league as soon as possible to avoid this kind of situation.
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06-21-2017, 03:18 PM
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#371
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
honestly is probably going to be the worst team in league history, and it seems like that is their intention
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Next year has some pretty dynamite talent at the top of the draft, and we can't have Edmonton get them for 6 years and then Vancouver for the next 5... 
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06-21-2017, 03:18 PM
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#372
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
There's always something to be said for getting an exclusive negotiating window. Lots of times teams sign players in such a window.
A signed Engelland is probably worth 3 times more than anybody else we exposed. Plus VGK may be looking to corner the defenseman market for the next couple days leading up to the entry draft. They can literally control the trade market on defensemen for quite some time.
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Duhatcheck had speculated they'd load up on goaltenders, but loading up on defensemen makes more sense.
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06-21-2017, 03:21 PM
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#373
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
honestly is probably going to be the worst team in league history, and it seems like that is their intention
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Where were you when the Ottawa Senators and the SJ Sharks entered the League?
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06-21-2017, 03:21 PM
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#374
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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As I see these names leak out I feel like there are more trades and pieces moving then we know right now.
No way they left some of the names they could have drafted on the board with just the trades that we know of right now.
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06-21-2017, 03:22 PM
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#375
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Where were you when the Ottawa Senators and the SJ Sharks entered the League?
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or the 74-75 capitals
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06-21-2017, 03:23 PM
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#376
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by looooob
or the 74-75 capitals
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That was over forty years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if 95% of this board was not even born until after 1974.
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06-21-2017, 03:23 PM
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#377
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
honestly is probably going to be the worst team in league history, and it seems like that is their intention
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Talk like this is complete nonsense until the dust from trades tomorrow and Friday settles.
Vegas is going to have too many players, too many draft picks, and is going to have to trade some of that quantity for quality and 18-22 year old players that are still prospects (and non waiver eligible).
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06-21-2017, 03:23 PM
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#378
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
honestly is probably going to be the worst team in league history, and it seems like that is their intention
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Hyperbole much? They won't even be the worst team in the last few years let alone league history. Hard to take you seriously when you make ridiculous statements like this. Not to mention we have no idea what trades they've made, what trades they will make.
Your post sounds like a preteen.
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06-21-2017, 03:25 PM
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#379
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#1 Goaltender
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Yeah that LV team is going to be pretty bad. Zero tier 1 players and just a couple good ones, other than that pretty much garbage. Passing guys like Vatanen and Dumba in exchange for draft picks means they really want to build through the draft.
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06-21-2017, 03:26 PM
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#380
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: BC
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Don't see how Engelland is a fit in LV and also why would he want to sign with LV.
It appears they don't plan to be a winning team anytime soon and obviously are stock piling picks and probably prospects.
I get they are willing to take on contact to get the pick/prospect assets but Engelland as a free agent doesn't fit that bill.... I guess at the very least they do need some NHL quality players on your team does that mean Engelland gets above market value contract from LV or he values the location so much he's willing to sacrifice a chance for team success?
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