“It’s almost as if me being like Cruella Deville without all the warmth has put the electorate off, when really you should have been lapping up every attack I made on Jeremy Corbyn.
Your argument is nothing should be done about terrorism, because there are bigger problems in the world?
No, my argument is that "things could be done that are not being done" is a pretty empty argument to begin with, and especially poor in the context of terrorism.
Besides, that logic tends to result in costly but ineffective measures taken for the sake of "looking like we're doing something".
So May's stated reasoning behind calling a snap election was a desire to increase her party's majority to strengthen their position in Brexit negotiations. That was a big fail, but 40% of the Scottish National Party's seats went Tory, so that's rather interesting too. Talk about muddying the waters.
And it sounds like May lacks even the honour to admit her shortcomings turned a potential 100+ seat majority into a minority and step aside. She's going to try and form a coalition with a far right party.
So May's stated reasoning behind calling a snap election was a desire to increase her party's majority to strengthen their position in Brexit negotiations. That was a big fail, but 40% of the Scottish National Party's seats went Tory, so that's rather interesting too. Talk about muddying the waters.
And it sounds like May lacks even the honour to admit her shortcomings turned a potential 100+ seat majority into a minority and step aside. She's going to try and form a coalition with a far right party.
It makes no sense at all. The Tories already had a majority, why did she need to call an election to get a larger majority?
Also it is interesting this election went poorly for the SNP however if a coalition government is formed with a far right party support for Scottish independence may increase.
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So May's stated reasoning behind calling a snap election was a desire to increase her party's majority to strengthen their position in Brexit negotiations. That was a big fail, but 40% of the Scottish National Party's seats went Tory, so that's rather interesting too. Talk about muddying the waters.
And it sounds like May lacks even the honour to admit her shortcomings turned a potential 100+ seat majority into a minority and step aside. She's going to try and form a coalition with a far right party.
A Northern Irish, fiercely Protestant party, no less. I'm sure that'll do wonders for things.
...We defended the right of extremists to free speech in the belief that the most effective way of undermining them was for us to counter their speech. This was nice in theory; there was, however, one rather large problem. Apart from a handful of people, no one did counter them. And those who did were promptly labelled “Islamophobes.”
Fully exploiting the uncontested space we provided them, extremists promoted their supremacist, hate-filled ideology to thousands of Muslims on satellite channels, through social media, on campuses and community events, day in, day out. In the battle of ideas, deconstructing their ideological world view was then and remains now one of our greatest failures. And fail we did – collectively, as Muslim institutions, human rights organisations, anti-racist groups and governments...
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Crazy isn't it. My wife and I went to London for our honeymoon in the fall after 9/11. I've been suggesting we should go back but my wife thinks it's too dangerous.
No, my argument is that "things could be done that are not being done" is a pretty empty argument to begin with, and especially poor in the context of terrorism.
Besides, that logic tends to result in costly but ineffective measures taken for the sake of "looking like we're doing something".
Serious question: How many Muslims are going to protest against Al Quds day? Al Quds day, as you would know, is the anti-Israel, anti-West, anti-Jew protest that some Muslim organizations put together that is filled with hateful, violent rhetoric. I would expect all sorts of people to protest against Al Quds day, but will anyone? Will Hezbollah flags wave in the wind again here in Canada? How many Muslims are going to show up to stop Jewish people from getting attacked?
This would be a good start - the choice of violence and racism is something that every community normally would denounce. Itse, do you believe Muslims will protest against Al Quds Day protesters? Or is the type of hate that will be chanted at the protests something we should ignore? Do you agree that it is the acceptance of things like Al Quds Day that is the problem?
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Serious question: How many Muslims are going to protest against Al Quds day? Al Quds day, as you would know, is the anti-Israel, anti-West, anti-Jew protest that some Muslim organizations put together that is filled with hateful, violent rhetoric. I would expect all sorts of people to protest against Al Quds day, but will anyone? Will Hezbollah flags wave in the wind again here in Canada? How many Muslims are going to show up to stop Jewish people from getting attacked?
This would be a good start - the choice of violence and racism is something that every community normally would denounce. Itse, do you believe Muslims will protest against Al Quds Day protesters? Or is the type of hate that will be chanted at the protests something we should ignore? Do you agree that it is the acceptance of things like Al Quds Day that is the problem?
Zero. The answer was zero. There were Jewish protesters. Siddiq Khan allowed them to fly Hezbolla flags (illegal) and then had the gall to call the march against hate and far right racist rally. Sorry Khan but the Sikh community was there marching with other working class people. They are sick of the #### too. Sikh and Hindu girls are being abused by the sex gangs as much or more than English girls are because the abusers know there is less of a chance of them telling.
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I know Nage Waza likes to categorize any anti-Israel demonstration as anti-semitic, but the point of Al Quds day is protesting against the genuinely horrible treatment of Palestinians and the increasingly indefensible apartheid policies of the nation of Israel.
In other words, IMO Al Quds day would be a terrible choice for a march against anti-semitism.
(Yes, I'm aware that in some countries Al Quds day marches have turned violently anti-semitic. Mostly they don't, and it's still pretty much the one day when anti-semites have an actual point.)
As for Hezbollah flags, boo hoo. Yes, they're categorized as terrorists and thus illegal, but the reality is so much more complicated that it's a pretty ridiculous complaint.
Besides. People in general march for their own causes, not for someone else. For the most part that's just how people are.
Does the fact that white people rarely march with local indigenous minorities (first nations, samé, aboriginals, what ever your local flavour is) mean they all quietly just accept the racism and hatred those people face?
I know Nage Waza likes to categorize any anti-Israel demonstration as anti-semitic, but the point of Al Quds day is protesting against the genuinely horrible treatment of Palestinians and the increasingly indefensible apartheid policies of the nation of Israel.
In other words, IMO Al Quds day would be a terrible choice for a march against anti-semitism.
(Yes, I'm aware that in some countries Al Quds day marches have turned violently anti-semitic. Mostly they don't, and it's still pretty much the one day when anti-semites have an actual point.)
As for Hezbollah flags, boo hoo. Yes, they're categorized as terrorists and thus illegal, but the reality is so much more complicated that it's a pretty ridiculous complaint.
I do think Naga Waza is being over the top with his immediate accusations of anti-semitism and that most who participate in Al Quds do have noble intentions.
However, Al Quds was also started by and continues to be financially supported by Iran and not the Palestinians themselves. Iran, who is a #####e nation, has highly dubious intentions. Iran squarely backs Hezbollah, which wants to install a #####e government in the area, while the Palestinians are almost entirely Sunni. In fact, Hamas and Hezbollah are likely engaged in open warfare against each other in Syria. Hamas supports various groups within the SFA and Hezbollah backs the Assad regime.
I'm not saying that Al Quds is totally without merit, but some of the parties clearly have hidden agendas. Anytime you have the flag of a totalitarian #####e group flying at an event for Sunnis, you should be suspicious.
