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		|  06-13-2017, 08:25 PM | #1 |  
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Flames might be a smart money pick at 35/1.
 
A team that missed the playoffs is tied for the 2nd best odds? Hmm...
		 
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		|  06-13-2017, 08:26 PM | #2 |  
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			We do not have a goalie, need a high quality RW. Not surprised on odds at all
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		|  06-13-2017, 08:29 PM | #3 |  
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			Oilers having better odds than the Hawks is beyond laughable
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		|  06-13-2017, 08:40 PM | #4 |  
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			Haha, that was a good laugh. Thanks
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		|  06-13-2017, 08:49 PM | #5 |  
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			A fool and his money are soon Oiler fans.
		 
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		|  06-13-2017, 08:53 PM | #6 |  
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			Panthers at 45/1 isn't bad.
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		|  06-13-2017, 09:06 PM | #7 |  
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			I like that we can now say "Vegas' Vegas odds".
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 12:31 AM | #8 |  
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			CBJ seems like the best value pick, to me
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 07:43 AM | #9 |  
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			Since the odds are determined by the number of betters actually betting on a team, all this shows is that betters are favouring the Oilers over all teams save Pittsburgh.
 A lot of casual betters bet with their heart, not their brain (feel free to insert joke about Oiler fans and brains here!).
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		|  06-14-2017, 07:46 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by jg13  Oilers having better odds than the Hawks is beyond laughable |  
I love it. Really there's nowhere to go for the Oilers but down as the expectations are now unrealistically high. They already will be starting the season with a more significant injury than they had to deal with all last season. They still can't win games consistently unless Talbot stands on his head which is never a recipe for long term success. Now they have the added burden of extremely high expectations which means any slump or stretch of bad games will result in panic amongst the local media and fans and players will be thrown under the bus left and right. Things are always fun when you are playing above expectations but when the expectations are so high that even playing decent doesn't suffice, smiles in the locker room are displaced by frowns and sulking. They will be in the mix for the playoffs as the division stinks as I feel the Sharks are nearing steep decline and the Kings are mediocre so really the Oilers only have to keep pace with the Ducks and Flames.
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		|  06-14-2017, 09:46 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by jg13  Oilers having better odds than the Hawks is beyond laughable |  
I don't think you understand how odds & gambling work if you consider this laughable.
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		|  06-14-2017, 09:47 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Cobra  Since the odds are determined by the number of betters actually betting on a team, all this shows is that betters are favouring the Oilers over all teams save Pittsburgh.
 A lot of casual betters bet with their heart, not their brain (feel free to insert joke about Oiler fans and brains here!).
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The odds can and will change based on bets, but these would be the opening odds.
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		|  06-14-2017, 09:50 AM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius  CBJ seems like the best value pick, to me |  
My thoughts as well. That said, these kind of future bets are usually a really great way to throw away money except it takes much, much longer than blowing your money on a 6/49 ticket.
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 11:18 AM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by Erick Estrada  I love it. Really there's nowhere to go for the Oilers but down as the expectations are now unrealistically high. |  
Or up, or stay the same. 
 
That's really the only three options.
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		|  06-14-2017, 11:24 AM | #15 |  
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			I'll take the Blues at 35:1
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		|  06-14-2017, 11:28 AM | #16 |  
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			The Oilers were favourites in round two this season...it's because those idiot delusional fans are betting on them and Vegas is happy to take their money
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 12:02 PM | #17 |  
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			Vegas doesn't like Vegas.
		 
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		|  06-14-2017, 12:14 PM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by Oil Stain  Or up, or stay the same. 
 That's really the only three options.
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Three options but highest probability points to down.  I don't think they will catch anyone by surprise this season.  It seems like the stars aligned for them this season and they were ahead of schedule and teams like that tend to take a step back.  Like I said before the start of the 2017/18 season they have already been hurt by  injuries more than last season.
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		|  06-14-2017, 03:12 PM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by Erick Estrada  Three options but highest probability points to down.  I don't think they will catch anyone by surprise this season.  It seems like the stars aligned for them this season and they were ahead of schedule and teams like that tend to take a step back.  Like I said before the start of the 2017/18 season they have already been hurt by  injuries more than last season. |  
To go up you have to assume someone takes their game up a notch.  McDavid?  He's good but you can't assume he scores more.  He might stay the same, go backwards, or sustain an injury.  The Ducks showed that he can be defended.  It remains to be seen if Draisaitl can sustain a whole year at centre.  He did well in the POs but during the year scored a lot off of McDavid.  Will Lucic improve?  Doubtful.  Will Maroon?  Nah.  Will Talbot?  I can't see him playing more, and I can't see him playing better.  The same at best.  
 
Eberle and RNH have peaked, IMO.  Larsson is what he is, same with the rest of the D.  The rest are role players.  Some will improve, some will not, some will go backwards.
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		|  06-14-2017, 03:20 PM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by GioforPM  To go up you have to assume someone takes their game up a notch. McDavid? He's good but you can't assume he scores more. He might stay the same, go backwards, or sustain an injury. The Ducks showed that he can be defended. It remains to be seen if Draisaitl can sustain a whole year at centre. He did well in the POs but during the year scored a lot off of McDavid. Will Lucic improve? Doubtful. Will Maroon? Nah. Will Talbot? I can't see him playing more, and I can't see him playing better. The same at best. 
 Eberle and RNH have peaked, IMO. Larsson is what he is, same with the rest of the D. The rest are role players. Some will improve, some will not, some will go backwards.
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