Who do you WANT to be the Flames Starting Goalie Next Season [*NEW POLL 12·05·17]

[Robbob]

Mason can be a little bit of a head case. I don't trust him as a starter. Especially after this last post season.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Mason can be a little bit of a head case. I don't trust him as a starter. Especially after this last post season.

Me neither. He'd have to be paired with another 1a/b goalie

[Roof-Daddy]

There is pretty much no goalie that we can realistically acquire who doesn't come with pretty big question marks at this point.

So for me it comes down to acquisition cost.

Unless Flames management is ridiculously confident that they can unearth the next Jones/Talbot/Murray with guys like Raanta or Grubauer, then just go get a guy who's handled a starters workload with above average results and won't cost too much (or nothing) to acquire.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

There is pretty much no goalie that we can realistically acquire who doesn't come with pretty big question marks at this point.

So for me it comes down to acquisition cost.

Unless Flames management is ridiculously confident that they can unearth the next Jones/Talbot/Murray with guys like Raanta or Grubauer, then just go get a guy who's handled a starters workload with above average results and won't cost too much (or nothing) to acquire.

Halak.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Halak.

Yeah, you have to think he's an option simmering on the back burner should other options fall apart, get too expensive or don't materialize.

He's a sneaky good goalie.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Yeah, you have to think he's an option simmering on the back burner should other options fall apart, get too expensive or don't materialize.

He's a sneaky good goalie.

Yep and should be able to send one of Bouma or Stajan back the other way. Makes sense cap-wise for both teams I would think.

[868904]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Mike Smith is old, average, overpaid, and apparently expensive to acquire.
At this point, I hope it's anyone but Smith.
I just don't think the gap between him and Elliott is large enough to justify the acquisition cost, age, and cap hit.

Mason makes more sense. Him, Elliott and Raanta seem like the most reasonable options at this point.

I'd take Smith only if it's a cap dump type deal, whereby the Flames pick up a second or third round pick plus Smith in exchange for a Bouma or Chiasson type asset.

I actually like the player but that cap hit is massive for an old man.

[Ryan Coke]

Miller.

[dustygoon]

In my mind its now Smith, Halak, or Lehner

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by 868904

I'd take Smith only if it's a cap dump type deal, whereby the Flames pick up a second or third round pick plus Smith in exchange for a Bouma or Chiasson type asset.

I actually like the player but that cap hit is massive for an old man.

Why would the Coyotes do that? He played well for them last season. They aren't motivated to dump his cap hit, add an asset and take back bad cap in return.
Makes no sense.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

Why would the Coyotes do that? He played well for them last season. They aren't motivated to dump his cap hit, add an asset and take back bad cap in return.
Makes no sense.

A couple of years ago they were talking buyout' mind you there is only two years left on the deal now so maybe the desire to get Rid of him is less now.

He had average stats on a bad team, he's had average stats on a bad team for years except for one year exceptional elite stats. Could just be that he's been in front of such a bad team that his stats hav been hurt but based on stats alone, you are not talking about one of the elite goalies in the league. In fact Elliot has better stats and resume than Smith.

I really don't know where the Coyotes are with Smith, whether they want to move him or keep him, I'm just stating what I think is a good trade from a Flames perspective.

No team should be over paying for a goalie at that age with that kind of a cap hit. His game could completely fall off next season. Whoever trades for him is rolling the dice, and the payment should reflect the risk.

[Roof-Daddy]

I think if anything Smith probably wants out of Arizona. He sounded pretty frustrated at the end of last season.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I think if anything Smith probably wants out of Arizona. He sounded pretty frustrated at the end of last season.

Yeah, they were sellers and firmly in a rebuild. Can't see him wanting to stay.

[Par]

Don't want Saros after that showing.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Par

Don't want Saros after that showing.

Overreact much?

[Mr.Coffee]

This may not be popular but I'd like to see Elliott back at minimum as a back-up.

He is inconsistent. But I think he's one of the best out of that lot. I don't think Fleury is necessarily better than him, as both can be capable of getting hot or not at the right / wrong times, and Elliott would likely be cheaper.

In the final game, when the entire city of Calgary and most people on this site were calling for Elliott's head after that extremely weak goal, I found it a bit aggressive. He let in a really soft goal, and it happened to be at a terrible time. But we saw how earlier in the season he could be really, really good too. I'm just not sure he should be given up on so easily.

Is it possible he can be more consistent?

I think so.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

This may not be popular but I'd like to see Elliott back at minimum as a back-up.

He is inconsistent. But I think he's one of the best out of that lot. I don't think Fleury is necessarily better than him, as both can be capable of getting hot or not at the right / wrong times, and Elliott would likely be cheaper.

In the final game, when the entire city of Calgary and most people on this site were calling for Elliott's head after that extremely weak goal, I found it a bit aggressive. He let in a really soft goal, and it happened to be at a terrible time. But we saw how earlier in the season he could be really, really good too. I'm just not sure he should be given up on so easily.

Is it possible he can be more consistent?

I think so.

I think if it didn't cost a 3rd he would be back for sure. But it will cost a 3rd so unless he's willing to come back for low and I mean really low term and dollars I just don't see it.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

I think if it didn't cost a 3rd he would be back for sure. But it will cost a 3rd so unless he's willing to come back for low and I mean really low term and dollars I just don't see it.

Funny that people are overreacting about losing a 3rd rounder if they sign Elliot but are willing to trade for Fleury and Smith which will cost a lot more than a 3rd. If Treliving believes Elliot is the best option, losing a 3rd rounder won't stop him.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Fire

Funny that people are overreacting about losing a 3rd rounder if they sign Elliot but are willing to trade for Fleury and Smith which will cost a lot more than a 3rd. If Treliving believes Elliot is the best option, losing a 3rd rounder won't stop him.

Will Smith cost 'a lot more than a 3rd' though? And I don't see anyone overreacting.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Will Smith cost 'a lot more than a 3rd' though? And I don't see anyone overreacting.

If you believe Friedman, Smith will cost a lot to obtain, a high draft pick and a prospect. IMO anyone complaining at all about losing a 3rd rounder in order to get a solid goalie is overreacting. A 3rd rounder has a 30% chance of playing 50+ games in the NHL. Nothing to worry about.