2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by DJones

I don't get it, so it's misogynistic to think that female's are weaker than males?

Isn't that just a fact?

Facts are misogynistic now.

[Zulu29]

Oh ffs...any trade talk????

[MissTeeks]

Let it go!

Here, some Vegas stories:

http://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-clo...ruger-1.766336

The Vegas Golden Knights and Chicago Blackhawks could be working out a deal ahead of the expansion draft in June.
TSN Senior Hockey Reporter Frank Seravalli reports the Blackhawks could allow the Golden Knights to select Trevor van Riemsdyk in the expansion draft, on the condition Vegas also takes forward Marcus Kruger in a trade.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/f...ing-expansion/

Matt Stajan, Calgary Flames

There aren’t going to be a lot of decent centres available in the expansion draft. Stajan isn’t ideal for the role of third-line pivot at this point in his career, but Vegas has limited options. Besides, like our other skaters, the Calgary pivot can contribute in multiple roles, giving the Knights much-needed versatility.
At least as importantly, he’s in the final season of his current contract. Centres are also notoriously difficult to find at the trade deadline, which is why Arizona was able to command a first-round pick and more for Martin Hanzal, and why Toronto paid a second-rounder for fourth-line pivot Brian Boyle.
Vegas would take Stajan knowing they plan to flip him at the trade deadline after 50-odd games of steady play down the middle.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by missteeks

let it go!

cant hold me back anymoooo oo oooore!

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by DJones

I don't get it, so it's misogynistic to think that female's are weaker than males?

Isn't that just a fact?

When generalizing, yes. Are there some women who are more physically fit than the average man? Yes. Considering something like 74% of men are overweight or obese, it's not factual to state that women are "weaker".

Even the term weaker is broad. I know small, 110lb women in kick boxing who can throw down. I know women who have given birth without anesthetics. Furthermore, ive seen women handle jobs, do all the cooking, handle housework, and raise kids while the lazy father sits on the couch all day. All of those things do not imply a weaker sex.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

cant hold me back anymoooo oo oooore!

Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

When generalizing, yes. Are there some women who are more physically fit than the average man? Yes. Considering something like 74% of men are overweight or obese, it's not factual to state that women are "weaker".

Even the term weaker is broad. I know small, 110lb women in kick boxing who can throw down. I know women who have given birth without anesthetics. Furthermore, ive seen women handle jobs, do all the cooking, handle housework, and raise kids while the lazy father sits on the couch all day. All of those things do not imply a weaker sex.

I'll give you my number one pick in my hockey pool for the rights to this female

Trade Talk booyah

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Speaking of the Canucks there are rumors they are in discussions with at least Dallas about moving up in the draft.

Not likely much will come out of this given how incredibly steep the costs are to move up into a top 3 spot. Treliving tried his hardest last season to move up but simply couldn't pull the trigger and it kind of ended up working out better for the Flames anyway.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

cant hold me back anymoooo oo oooore!

God I'm glad that phase is over. Know that movie off by heart.


Anyhow, anyone else terrified of any and all trade news? Only thing I want to happen is to trade anyone in our bottom 6 for picks that we can. Brouwer, Stajan, Bouma for the most part.

I don't want to give up any pieces for anyone and I don't want to sign any UFAs. Re-sign Stone, have a good draft, get rid of Brouwer and call it a summer.

[scotty2hotty]

The trolls never bothered me anyway!

[DJones]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

When generalizing, yes. Are there some women who are more physically fit than the average man? Yes. Considering something like 74% of men are overweight or obese, it's not factual to state that women are "weaker".

Even the term weaker is broad. I know small, 110lb women in kick boxing who can throw down. I know women who have given birth without anesthetics. Furthermore, ive seen women handle jobs, do all the cooking, handle housework, and raise kids while the lazy father sits on the couch all day. All of those things do not imply a weaker sex.

Didn't say anything about being incapable or inferior, it's just physical strength. My wife's a hard working saint that goes to the gym 5 days a week and can run laps around me. We did rocks last weekend and she struggled with the wheel barrel. My sister was on team Canada for track and does triathlons for fun. Guess who moved her new washing machine into her house.

Both of them are harder working than me but I just happen to be 7 inches taller than them.

[TheScorpion]

Would you folks rather have Jokipakka or Bartkowski?

[Ashasx]

I don't understand this proposed agreement between Vegas and Chicago.

1. TVR isn't very good.
2. Chicago wasn't going to protect him anyway.
3. Taking Kruger would be a favour for Chicago.

Why would Vegas even consider this?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not likely much will come out of this given how incredibly steep the costs are to move up into a top 3 spot. Treliving tried his hardest last season to move up but simply couldn't pull the trigger and it kind of ended up working out better for the Flames anyway.

The big difference here is the tier's in this draft. Last year the drop off came after the third pick this year it is after the 2nd pick. I have serious doubts the Canucks could move up to grab one of Hischer or Patrick but really it is anyone's guess who is going to get picked 3-10.

Vancouver also didn't get PLD last year who they apparently really wanted. They could be more aggressive to land the player they want. Perhaps the 5th pick and their 2 2nds would be enough?

It could be a bigger deal of Tanev+5 for 3+Prospect

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Would you folks rather have Jokipakka or Bartkowski?

Bartkowski definitely outplayed Jokipakka. Jokipakka was playing horribly, which is why the Flames got Bartkowski in the first place and ultimately traded Kevin for AHL depth.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I don't understand this proposed agreement between Vegas and Chicago.

1. TVR isn't very good.
2. Chicago wasn't going to protect him anyway.
3. Taking Kruger would be a favour for Chicago.

Why would Vegas even consider this?

Yeah doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The big difference here is the tier's in this draft. Last year the drop off came after the third pick this year it is after the 2nd pick. I have serious doubts the Canucks could move up to grab one of Hischer or Patrick but really it is anyone's guess who is going to get picked 3-10.

Vancouver also didn't get PLD last year who they apparently really wanted. They could be more aggressive to land the player they want. Perhaps the 5th pick and their 2 2nds would be enough?

It could be a bigger deal of Tanev+5 for 3+Prospect

Judging by recent history it appears the Canucks value larger, physical forwards as they were in love with PLD and took Virtanen rather than smaller, more skilled forwards like Nylander and Ehlers. Looks to me they will have their pick of two or three big centers at number 5 without trading down. Like you say it's anyone's guess who could go two picks before them so why give up an awful lot when the guy they may be fixated on may fall in their lap at 5 anyway?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Judging by recent history it appears the Canucks value larger, physical forwards as they were in love with PLD and took Virtanen rather than smaller, more skilled forwards like Nylander and Ehlers. Looks to me they will have their pick of two or three big centers at number 5 without trading down. Like you say it's anyone's guess who could go two picks before them so why give up an awful lot when the guy they may be fixated on may fall in their lap at 5 anyway?

Agreed I could just see Benning not wanting to lose out on their guy again. If he sees one of those centers as the clear cut #3 he is going to try and move up. His offer might cap out at a couple of 2nds and maybe eating a goalie contract? If Nill wants the 5th pick and Tanev for the 3rd pick then it is a quick conversation and a deal doesn't happen

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I don't understand this proposed agreement between Vegas and Chicago.

1. TVR isn't very good.
2. Chicago wasn't going to protect him anyway.
3. Taking Kruger would be a favour for Chicago.

Why would Vegas even consider this?

This is literally what went through my head when I read that too.

TVR is almost certainly what Vegas will be picking from Chicago regardless, so the only way to really look at this is Chicago is just offering Vegas a free player with a contract they no longer want. I don't think Vegas will be all that hard-pressed to hit the cap floor, though, so Chi will probably have to sweeten the deal a bit with a low draft pick at least.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Would you folks rather have Jokipakka or Bartkowski?

Bartkowski, mostly because he is currently under contract with the Flames. I think you need to give up on Kevin. Just buy a Bartkowski or Ollas Mattson jersey or whatever you want next and move on!