Karla Homolka is living in Canada again, Magnotta trial hears

[KelVarnsen]

And here I was thinking Rerun had returned

[Locke]

I cant think of a more positive female role model for impressionable youth.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Locke

I cant think of a more positive female role model for impressionable youth.

No idea why she would think she has any business coming into contact with anyone's children or what she could offer. She was involved in the death of her own teenage sister for crying out loud so I feel for the family of her husband that are now somehow intertwined with this woman. Go live your life wherever but stay the hell away from other people's children.

[ToewsFan]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I hate to judge but how could a man marry her knowing what she did? Maybe she's a better person today but man that would be hard to overlook.

Not defending her, but I think it's safe to say that if she never met Bernardo, she probably would not have run into problems. I cannot see her being a danger to society.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by ToewsFan

Not defending her, but I think it's safe to say that if she never met Bernardo, she probably would not have run into problems. I cannot see her being a danger to society.

Safe to say? If you had kids would you want her supervising them?

[Weitz]

Something tells me this will devolve into the Vince Li argument again.

I don't know what to think really. She has been doing it for some time before the media picked up on it. Do the other parents know? Has anything happened? I mean she has her own kids...

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by ToewsFan

Not defending her, but I think it's safe to say that if she never met Bernardo, she probably would not have run into problems. I cannot see her being a danger to society.

From what I've read the reason Bernardo and Homolka hit it off so well is because she encouraged his twisted fantasies. She absolutely should still be viewed as a danger to society and shouldn't be anywhere near kids

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by ToewsFan

Not defending her, but I think it's safe to say that if she never met Bernardo, she probably would not have run into problems. I cannot see her being a danger to society.

You can't say that, she wasn't some innocent waif dragged along on a killing spree with a knife to her throat.

She helped plan these rapes and helped carry them out and the murders.

She didn't show an ounce of regret in prison, she flouted the rules dated in mates, gave sexual favors to other ones.

She's as much of a psycho as her ex husband.

She shouldn't even be allowed to keep her own kids.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by ToewsFan

Not defending her, but I think it's safe to say that if she never met Bernardo, she probably would not have run into problems. I cannot see her being a danger to society.

What? Based on what?

[northcrunk]

Lock her up!
Lock her up!
Lock her up!
Lock her up!
Lock her up!

[ToewsFan]

Originally Posted by Locke

What? Based on what?

She was released in 2005, and has never been in trouble with the law since. She has to be in her 50s by now. I'm not trying to minimize what she did, and she should have received a longer prison sentence. However, now that she is out, I don't have an issue with what she is doing.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by ToewsFan

Not defending her, but I think it's safe to say that if she never met Bernardo, she probably would not have run into problems. I cannot see her being a danger to society.

Like minded people tend to attract like minded people. He was the Scarborough Rapist before he met her and she seemed only too happy to help him along. In fact, she also participated in the sexual assaults of their murder victims.

I think they enabled each other.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by ToewsFan

She was released in 2005, and has never been in trouble with the law since. She has to be in her 50s by now. I'm not trying to minimize what she did, and she should have received a longer prison sentence. However, now that she is out, I don't have an issue with what she is doing.

LOL, you're not a parent are you?

[MBates]

For those who perhaps need some context, the nature of the acts (and more particularly the impact on everyone who has ever viewed them) are described somewhat in the judgment of the criminal case brought against Bernardo's lawyer for keeping the existence of the tapes a secret from the authorities:

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/do...nlii22378.html

[19] The critical tapes are indescribably horrible. Leslie Mahaffy was 14 years of age and Kristen French 15 when they were abducted and murdered by Bernardo, assisted by Homolka. The tapes show each of them being forced to participate with Bernardo and Homolka in the grossest sexual perversions. In the course of sexual assaults they are forced to pretend they are enjoying the experience through scripted dialogue, and, in the case of Kristen French, through being instructed to constantly smile at the camera. Obedience is obtained through physical assault and Bernardo threatens each of them with death if they do not perform as directed.

[20] Everyone exposed to the videotapes has been deeply affected by the experience.

[21] Doyle had to review the tapes by way of trial preparation for Rosen. In giving her evidence she broke down at the recollection and said that she saw the tapes nine times, but "a million times in my head".

[22] Rosen, a veteran criminal defence counsel, was obliged to hesitate part way through his evidence as he recollected the images on the tapes. He described viewing the tapes on September 13, 1994 with MacDonald and Clayton Ruby. MacDonald wept beside him as the tapes were shown and Rosen said he himself was extremely upset. Murray described the tapes as "caustic", "corrosive" and "shocking". Even defence counsel, Mr. Cooper, who must in his career have been exposed to almost everything terrible the court system has to offer, was obliged to request a brief adjournment in the course of reading in some of this evidence.

[23] In addition to the dreadful acts perpetrated on Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy, the critical tapes also show the drugging and sexual assaults of Jane Doe and Tammy Homolka, both 15 years of age.

The unique difficulty of reconciling Homolka's re-integration to society is due to the fact that she was able to negotiate a deal that it is safe to say never would have occurred if the existence of the tapes had been known:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rticle1028321/

The Crown prosecutor negotiated the plea bargain with Ms. Homolka and her lawyer in 1993, before Crown officials knew there were videotapes portraying her as a willing participant in the murders in St. Catharines of Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy.

[Bagor]

How can there be a reasonable doubt as to his intentions to obstruct justice?

Pretty black and white, no? He knowingly withheld crucial evidence.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by MBates

For those who perhaps need some context, the nature of the acts (and more particularly the impact on everyone who has ever viewed them) are described somewhat in the judgment of the criminal case brought against Bernardo's lawyer for keeping the existence of the tapes a secret from the authorities:

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/do...nlii22378.html



The unique difficulty of reconciling Homolka's re-integration to society is due to the fact that she was able to negotiate a deal that it is safe to say never would have occurred if the existence of the tapes had been known:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rticle1028321/

I remember following this when it all went down.

####ing horrible then, and horrible now.

[Jacks]

NDP Leader Tom Mulcair raised the question of whether it might be time to forgive and move on."Everybody is going to have to take their own stock of that and ensure that first and foremost that the security of their kids is taken care of,'' Mulcair said on Wednesday.
"Beyond that, it becomes a question of forgiveness,'' he added, pointing out that Homolka had "paid her debt'' to society.
"If you're ensuring the safety of the kids, beyond our revulsion at the horror of the crime, is there any room for atonement and forgiveness?'' he asked.

How about no Tom.
The murderer should be dead along with her rapist/murderer boyfriend.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Something tells me this will devolve into the Vince Li argument again.

I don't know what to think really. She has been doing it for some time before the media picked up on it. Do the other parents know? Has anything happened? I mean she has her own kids...

How would it get there?

It's pretty disgusting to compare Li to Holmolka. One is only out because evidence was intentionally withheld the other was Mentally ill. At know point was there an NCR defense on the table for Holmolka.

[Roof-Daddy]

This psycho took part in the drugging, rape, murder, dismemberment and disposal of her little sister. (Among other terrible acts)

I wouldn't want her anywhere near anybody I loved or cared about.

[bluejays]

It's one thing to pay your debt to society, but when a person commits a bank robbery or a person gets put on the child registry, they can't work in the financial industry or with kids, even when they're out IIRC. What makes this any different? This is besides the point that she got off on a legal technicality and not what she should've gotten if her and her dirtbag lawyer didn't bring forth the evidence in the house. I'm sure she means well with her own children but she should take up gardening or something. She should know nobody feels comfortable around her. Common sense isn't always common.