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View Poll Results: Which goaltender do you hope will be starting for the Flames in the 2017–18 Season?
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Jonathan Bernier (UFA)
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11 |
1.76% |
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Mike Condon (UFA)
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5 |
0.80% |
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Brian Elliott (UFA)
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51 |
8.16% |
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Marc Andre-Fleury (Trade)
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219 |
35.04% |
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Jon Gillies
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33 |
5.28% |
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Philipp Grubauer (Trade)
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73 |
11.68% |
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Jaroslav Halak (Trade)
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10 |
1.60% |
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Chad Johnson (UFA)
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3 |
0.48% |
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Joonis Korpisalo (Trade)
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25 |
4.00% |
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Steve Mason (UFA)
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14 |
2.24% |
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Ryan Miller (UFA)
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22 |
3.52% |
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Peter Mrazek (Trade)
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19 |
3.04% |
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Micheal Neuvirth (Trade)
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0% |
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Calvin Pickard (Trade)
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18 |
2.88% |
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Antti Raanta (Trade)
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78 |
12.48% |
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David Rittich
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4 |
0.64% |
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Mike Smith (Trade)
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35 |
5.60% |
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Cam Ward (Trade)
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5 |
0.80% |
05-17-2017, 01:07 PM
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#361
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Toonage
Some people didn't want Bishop signed here for $6M (or more) for 6 years because he would be 36 when the contract was up. Schneider is no different. Or is it more the injury concerns (for Bishop) than the cost?
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I personally think Schneider is an outright better goaltender
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05-17-2017, 01:17 PM
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#362
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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“We’ve talked to both guys to get a sense of where they are at. We were really comfortable with how our goaltending shaped up this year. We went from 30th to 14th. Do we think the goaltending played up to its potential in the playoffs? Probably not. But let’s not forget, without those guys, we end the year a little earlier.
“ You get through the emotion and get past that. When your eyes are bleeding because you’re so wound up, you usually make bad decisions. So you analyze it.”
I stayed in a really bad relationship with someone for a very long time with that kind of thinking. Eventually I came to the realization that I didn't want to be with someone who made my eyes bleed. I hope Treliving comes to the same realization with Elliott. He is not the right option. And while Treliving is taking his time analyzing things, the best options are being snapped up by GMs who are more decisive.
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05-17-2017, 01:19 PM
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#363
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary
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Still hoping for a (one of) Gilles/Rittich/Parsons and Johnson tandem.
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05-17-2017, 01:23 PM
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#364
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regorium
Still hoping for a (one of) Gilles/Rittich/Parsons and Johnson tandem.
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Why? Gillies/Rittich/Parsons have basically zero NHL experience. It seems like people have this idea that our goalie prospects are somehow better than goalies currently playing in the NHL. It's certainly possible, but there is no evidence that they are. So what we could and would likely end up with is a backup goalie as our starter (Johnson) and a question mark with no experience as our backup. Recipe for disaster.
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05-17-2017, 01:25 PM
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#365
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regorium
Still hoping for a (one of) Gilles/Rittich/Parsons and Johnson tandem.
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So you want to tank next year?
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05-17-2017, 01:26 PM
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#366
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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If Treliving doesn't manage to get Schneider or Murray, I will be dissatisfied. It's damn time the Flames acquired a proven legit #1.
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05-17-2017, 01:28 PM
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#367
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
If Treliving doesn't manage to get Schneider or Murray, I will be dissatisfied. It's damn time the Flames acquired a proven legit #1.
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You are going to be Super Duper disappointed hombre.
I don't know what expansion is going to shake lose for the Flames. But I get the feeling we will be within the realm of Lehtonen or Smith or Halak.
See, if you lower your expectations, you won't be disappointed with the results.
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05-17-2017, 01:31 PM
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#368
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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If the Flames play opening night with Jaroslav Halak, Mike Smith, or Kari Lehtonen in net, Treliving will have failed spectacularly.
Hell, acquiring Fleury would barely merit a passing grade in my books. I feel like a season with Fleury would be the exact same as this past year.
Treliving desperately needs to make a splash to make this team a contender.
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05-17-2017, 01:38 PM
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#369
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
If Treliving doesn't manage to get Schneider or Murray, I will be dissatisfied. It's damn time the Flames acquired a proven legit #1.
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Murray is not a proven legit #1
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05-17-2017, 01:38 PM
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#370
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Mrazek cause he's young and was stuck in a bad situation this season. I think he can bounce back
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05-17-2017, 01:40 PM
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#371
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Murray is not a proven legit #1
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He has a Cup and is super young with excellent numbers, good enough for me.
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05-17-2017, 01:41 PM
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#372
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
If the Flames play opening night with Jaroslav Halak, Mike Smith, or Kari Lehtonen in net, Treliving will have failed spectacularly.
Hell, acquiring Fleury would barely merit a passing grade in my books. I feel like a season with Fleury would be the exact same as this past year.
Treliving desperately needs to make a splash to make this team a contender.
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Let's just put it this way, I have faith Treliving is going to get the best possible option . Who that is, only time will tell. As long as it works, who cares what the name is.
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05-17-2017, 01:41 PM
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#373
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
He has a Cup and is super young with excellent numbers, good enough for me.
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He still doesn't fit your own criteria.
Plus being disappointed if Treliving doesn't acquire guys that aren't even available? That's like being disappointed that you can't get an Armani suit when you're shopping at Walmart. You might want to open your mind to realistic options.
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05-17-2017, 01:42 PM
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#374
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I had that faith last summer, too. But Brian Elliott was certainly not that guy, nor was Treliving's second choice (Bishop).
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05-17-2017, 01:45 PM
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#375
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
If Treliving doesn't manage to get Schneider or Murray, I will be dissatisfied. It's damn time the Flames acquired a proven legit #1.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
If the Flames play opening night with Jaroslav Halak, Mike Smith, or Kari Lehtonen in net, Treliving will have failed spectacularly.
Hell, acquiring Fleury would barely merit a passing grade in my books. I feel like a season with Fleury would be the exact same as this past year.
Treliving desperately needs to make a splash to make this team a contender.
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LOL
"If Treliving doesn't manage to get a goalie that is very likely unavailable he will have failed spectacularly"
The guy can only acquire someone who is available, and the only way to make someone who isn't available become available is to MASSIVELY overpay with young valuable assets, and Treliving shouldn't be doing that for a goaltender.
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05-17-2017, 01:48 PM
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#376
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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You can't win without goaltending. Treliving should absolutely be looking to trade pieces like 16 and prospects for a good goalie, not another in an endless parade of stop gaps.
Besides, why wouldn't Schneider be available for the right price? I get the skepticism on Murray, but I could totally see the Devils pulling the trigger there.
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05-17-2017, 01:50 PM
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#377
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I had that faith last summer, too. But Brian Elliott was certainly not that guy, nor was Treliving's second choice (Bishop).
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It was a great trade. Despite all the negativity over Elliott he still was a big part of making the playoffs. And that isn't absolving him of his slow start or failure against Anaheim. I contend though that it wouldn't matter who was in net for the Flames against the Ducks. They have this teams number.
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05-17-2017, 01:50 PM
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#378
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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I'm fine with an adequate starter if the Flames upgrade the defense instead. A stop gap like Smith would be fine if they address the other areas of need as well.
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05-17-2017, 01:51 PM
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#379
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
You can't win without goaltending. Treliving should absolutely be looking to trade pieces like 16 and prospects for a good goalie, not another in an endless parade of stop gaps.
Besides, why wouldn't Schneider be available for the right price? I get the skepticism on Murray, but I could totally see the Devils pulling the trigger there.
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I appreciate your optimism with NJ but I would think they would try to retool with getting the 1st overall and try to be competitive in a couple years. This lottery win is a life line that probably prevents them blowing everything up.
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05-17-2017, 01:53 PM
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#380
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
You can't win without goaltending. Treliving should absolutely be looking to trade pieces like 16 and prospects for a good goalie, not another in an endless parade of stop gaps.
Besides, why wouldn't Schneider be available for the right price? I get the skepticism on Murray, but I could totally see the Devils pulling the trigger there.
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Elliott's GAA before coming to the Flames:
1.56, 2.28, 1.96, 2.26, 2.07
How were you not at least hopeful that Elliott could be a decent option in net?
This year he was 2.55 GAA which is still solid, not stellar, but still a solid number. The available goalies this summer are at or worse than those numbers.
Heck, even Schneider's numbers aren't any better than what Elliott has to offer.
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