[Trade] Stars trade for Bishop and sign him to 6 year deal ($4.916 mil AAV)

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Bingo

But I go back to what I said about Oshie ... stay away from other team's high end free agents. Do that and you avoid 6 or 7 big mistakes compared to one "win" over a window of X number of years.

I don't know if goaltending is comparable to the other positions, though. You can afford to be patient and work on your other positions because there's three defensive pairings and four forward lines to juggle players through. One line can struggle because you failed to shore it up, while two other lines click and carry your team, meanwhile that top 6 winger is ripening on the farm for next season.

With goaltending the term "safe is death" comes to mind, especially when you're four years into an otherwise successful rebuild. At a certain point you can't sit back and say "It may not work out and bite us if we go big game hunting" because little game hunting may put you in the same failed position in a couple years.

It's the most difficult position in hockey to successfully fill because it relies on very good to elite playing on a consistent basis to be considered successful and there's only one on the ice at a time, with only two dressing.

There's a reason so many GM's swing hard on goaltending and often miss and it's not because there's 15+ dumb GM's in the league. Meanwhile, we get to sit back and go "Ooooh, why'd they do that" with hindsight and "Why would you risk any of those??!!! That guy's been injured and is 30 years old!!!!!!" because we have no pressure to put a decent team into contender status.

[East Coast Flame]

Originally Posted by jayswin

If I were them I'd consider the eaves pick found money and use it to get rid of a goalie. Probably one of many reasons why I'm not an NHL GM. Even as a fan I get really panicky with dead cap space and want to do almost anything to get rid of it.

They've got the number two pick, blow the other one and avoid a potential goalie cap disaster.

A buyout of Niemi is just two years at $1.5m - I would say that is very easy to swallow. Keep the pick.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by jayswin

If I were them I'd consider the eaves pick found money and use it to get rid of a goalie. Probably one of many reasons why I'm not an NHL GM. Even as a fan I get really panicky with dead cap space and want to do almost anything to get rid of it.

They've got the number two pick, blow the other one and avoid a potential goalie cap disaster.

Originally Posted by East Coast Flame

A buyout of Niemi is just two years at $1.5m - I would say that is very easy to swallow. Keep the pick.

Probably one of many reasons why I'm not an NHL GM. Even as a fan I get really panicky with dead cap space and want to do almost anything to get rid of it.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Hell of an offseason for Dallas so far.

Hire (re-hire) one of the all time leader in wins in Hitchcock to coach the team

Move into the top 3 in the draft with a 6.4% chance of doing so

Get a 1st round pick for Eaves thanks to the Ducks making the WCF

Sign the top UFA goalie for a fair contract which was their biggest need

All this before the third round of playoffs begin

Their defence is still putrid though. Who knew Kris Russell would be that important...

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Again, SV% is the strongest indicator of a goaltender's individual performance. GAA is good, but influenced more heavily by team play, and wins are almost irrelevant when judging a goaltender's ability. That's basic fact.

Which goaltender played better in these two scenarios:
.950 - 2.00 GAA - Loss
.800 - 2.00 GAA - Win

technically we don't know

the .950 might have given up the 2 goals on his first few shots and then gotten a bunch later, the other goalie allowed the same amount of goals we don't know if he would have made the next saves to get him to .950 or not

save percentage is not a good stat on small sample sizes like that

[Love]

Great signing

[heep223]

Really hope Tre has a plan, otherwise he should have been all over this.

[madmike]

Originally Posted by heep223

Really hope Tre has a plan, otherwise he should have been all over this.

Not sure Bishop was willing to go to Calgary after the deal-that-wasn't from last season.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by heep223

Really hope Tre has a plan, otherwise he should have been all over this.

He was a pending UFA. You can't force a player to sign with you.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Fire

He was a pending UFA. You can't force a player to sign with you.

Dallas traded for the right to sign Bishop.

[AC]

Originally Posted by heep223

Dallas traded for the right to sign Bishop.

And LA traded the rights to Bishop to Dallas at the request of Bishop.
Calgary was reportedly trying to do the same, but it sounds like Bishop asked to be traded to Dallas as that's where he wanted to sign.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by AC

And LA traded the rights to Bishop to Dallas at the request of Bishop.

I must have missed this piece. Admittedly have not read much of the thread.

[AC]

Originally Posted by heep223

I must have missed this piece. Admittedly have not read much of the thread.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/s...66971235504128

@TSNBobMcKenzie
It's believed Bishop's preference was to be dealt to DAL. BTW, Bishop played junior hockey in Texas.

[activeStick]

I was weary about the term he was looking for and anything 5 or longer was concerning to me, so the lower AAV Dallas signed him for is pretty irrelevant for me personally. It does however, seem pretty clear that Treliving wanted Bishop, so it'll be interesting to see how he adjusts.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Bishop would have been a poor fit with Calgary on a six year term. Plus, it would have cost closer to $6 a year to play with the Flames. Thank you to whoever in upper management who meddled with the trade.

[lazypucker]

Of Bishop would prefer NOT to go to Calgary, since the Flames called off 2 separate trades for him....

[Love]

Originally Posted by New Era

Plus, it would have cost closer to $6 a year to play with the Flames

Why?

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Love

Why?

He was rumoured to want at least $6 million a year when the Flames were trying to trade for him. Maybe even $7 million. Obviously he would take less to play somewhere he really likes (Dallas) instead of some place he doesn't have any reason to have positive feelings for (Calgary). He's a 30 year old American that played 99% of his career in he USA. If I was him I wouldn't want to move to city that is frozen for half the year to finish my career.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Love

Why?

taxes, Texas has no state tax...Calgary has to add almost 1M to put the same money in the guys pocket

[ComixZone]

Yeah, we better avoid paying good goalies what the market dictates.

We're much better off with below replacement level goaltending on short term deals. That's the ticket to success!