2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Roof-Daddy]

Yeah, I'd never watch the Flames again!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by JTech780

Please god no. I wouldn't take Ovechkin on this team if Washington was willing to take back Brouwer, Stajan and Bouma.

He is a great goal scorer, but that's all he is. He is more interested in scoring goals than winning games. Any team Ovechkin plays on will not win the Cup.

Pretty sure Ovi wins more than the Flames do

62 wins this season

There are 30 teams...its not easy to win a cup

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Yeah, I'd never watch the Flames again!

Oh but is that sexy...

[Vinny01]

Gulutzan was the coach in Dallas when Jagr played there maybe he could convince him to sign a one year deal?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Gulutzan was the coach in Dallas when Jagr played there maybe he could convince him to sign a one year deal?

The Travelling Jagrs wouldn't have to travel.

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

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Yeah, I'd never watch the Flames again!

I don't think you'd ever have to watch again, that team would go 82-0. It'd be so boring.

[jemjey]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Yeah, I'd never watch the Flames again!

you have my vote for GM. MAKE IT HAPPEN!

[sureLoss]

Friedman speculating that if he was Treliving he would be inquiring about Saros. Doesn't think Saros will get the opportunity to play in Nashville.

[Vinny01]

There seems to be a fair bit of smoke around Fleury and Vegas. Friedman brought that up stating "it makes a ton of sense"

[MacDaddy77]

I honestly don't see a goalie like Saros as an upgrade on Gillies, Rittich or Parsons for that matter.

Saros - AHL 38 GP 2.24 GAA 0.920 Pct
- NHL 21 GP 2.35 GAA 0.923 Pct
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=161740

Gillies - AHL 49 GP - 2.6 GAA 0.915 Pct
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=130895

Rittich - AHL 31 GP 2.27 GAA 0.924 pct


one of the only young goalies with the experiance to be a starter in my opinion is Pickard from Avalanche.

Pickard - NHL 86 GP 2.6 GAA 0.915 Pct
- AHL 140 GP 2.5 GAA 0.910 Pct

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=110237

why give up assets for a young goalie that's comparable to what we already have

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

I honestly don't see a goalie like Saros as an upgrade on Gillies, Rittich or Parsons for that matter.

Saros - AHL 38 GP 2.24 GAA 0.920 Pct
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=161740

Gillies - AHL 49 GP - 2.6 GAA 0.915 Pct
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=130895

Rittich - AHL 31 GP 2.27 GAA 0.924 pct


one of the only young goalies with the experiance to be a starter in my opinion is Pickard from Avalanche.

Pickard - NHL 86 GP 2.6 GAA 0.915 Pct
- AHL 140 GP 2.5 GAA 0.910 Pct

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=110237

why give up assets for a young goalie that's comparable to what we already have

You convieninently omitted Saros NHL stats which are stellar and evidence he's likely an upgrade on all those goaltenders you listed. Small sample size yes but so was Talbot and Saros is younger than Gillies.

[Toonage]

Saros this past season (from HockeyDB)

21 GP 47 GA 1 SO 2.35 GAA 10 W 8 L 3 OTL 0.923 SVP

Career vs. Pacific Division (from Hockey Reference)

Anaheim 0-0-0
San Jose 1-0-0
Los Angeles 0-0-0
Vancouver 0-0-0
Edmonton 0-0-0
Arizona 0-0-0

About as clean a slate as you can have against the competition he'd be facing most.

[MacDaddy77]

meant to put them in, He's played in a whopping 21 games. I'd honestly rather the flames show some confidence in one of our prospects instead of going outside to get a similar goalie.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

meant to put them in, He's played in a whopping 21 games. I'd honestly rather the flames show some confidence in one of our prospects instead of going outside to get a similar goalie.

Saros has proven a lot more at the AHL and NHL level than Gillies or Rittich.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

meant to put them in, He's played in a whopping 21 games. I'd honestly rather the flames show some confidence in one of our prospects instead of going outside to get a similar goalie.

Because none of the goaltenders in the Flames system have started more than a game in the NHL and Gillies quite frankly was pretty mediocre in the AHL this season. Way too much on the line for Treliving to even consider rolling with Gillies or Rittich. Saros in addition to playing 1/4 of an NHL season has a few seasons under his belt in the Finnish Elite league where he was also stellar. I'm not exactly sure how you can come to the conclusion he's similar in any way outside of age.

[MacDaddy77]

I believe the only thing separating them is opportunity. at some point the Flames have to allow one of their young goalies a chance to take the net. giving up assets to sign a goalie with 21 NHL games played isn't a direction Flames should be going in. If this is the case I'd prefer Elliot on a 2 year contract

[SofaProfessor]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman speculating that if he was Treliving he would be inquiring about Saros. Doesn't think Saros will get the opportunity to play in Nashville.

Would be worth it just to never have to play against Saros again. Dude seems to have the Flames' number.

[868904]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

meant to put them in, He's played in a whopping 21 games. I'd honestly rather the flames show some confidence in of our prospects instead of going outside to get a similar goalie.

Saros has a higher pedigree than both Gillies and Rittich. He's been heralded as the best Finnish goalie propect for years and dominated in the Finnish league and international tournaments.

Gillies has a good resume but his numbers in college are pretty common, even free agent goalies out of college put up crazy numbers. He also has not been good at international tournaments. He's been average at the AHL level, but he's also been recovering from injury. He's a good prospect and could still turn out to be a nhl starter.

Friedman doesn't see any of these goalies, what he does have are connections. He talks to people in the know and his people are telling him that Saros is the next big thing and that's why HE thinks Treliving should go after him.

Friedman asks his people what Treliving should do about his goaltending situation and if the hockey world thought that Gillies was ready, they would tell Friedman that Treliving should just go with Gillies. Clearly, Gillies is not and you really don't need to be a professional scout, GM, coach to see that. The fact is he has struggled in the AHL, he's shown flashes of brilliance but has also had bad stretches, which is not uncommon for young goalies. He needs more work on his consistency in the AHL and there is nothing wrong with that. You bring a young goalie into the NHL when he is not ready and you will ruin him.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by SofaProfessor

Would be worth it just to never have to play against Saros again. Dude seems to have the Flames' number.

1 win, 1 OTL against the Flames.

[home_sweet_dome]

Due to expansion draft requirements, Saros would cost a lot more to acquire than other young backups such as:

Grubauer
Pickard
Mrazek
Korpisalo

Really hard to say with young goalies, but don't feel Saros is that much better to justify the much bigger acquisition cost it would take to get him over one of the other guys.

I think the Flames end up grabbing one of these guys and pair him with a vet like Miller or Mason or Ward etc.