Who do you WANT the Flames Starting Goalie To Be Next Season [*NEW POLL 12·05·17]

[Lord Carnage]

Originally Posted by dammage79

We agree here. Columbus is ripe to trade one of their two NhL ready kid goalies. I'd love Korpisalo, but Anton Forsberg is not far behind.

I will disagree that Halak is garbage though

Have a question though... if Columbus were to trade us one of their young goalies (Korpisalo), that mean they still have to expose Forsberg (unless he's exempt, but I didn't think so).

That means they could go from having Bob and 2 great young potentials to having only Bob if Vegas were to take Forsberg.

Seems they'd rather keep both and be guaranteed of having one left after the process...???

[VladtheImpaler]

What I like about Treliving is that he will have thought of all these possibilities and will have explored the cost/likelihood of all of them, so we can at least be confident that all possibilities will be explored. That said, I brought up earlier in the thread that I thought with 2 strikes in the goalie column the last two seasons, Treliving would almost certainly look for the "sure thing" this time around. I assumed that would be Bishop. And it does look like Treliving tried that route a few times to the point of burning that bridge it seems. So, what then? Does he really have the balls to roll the dice on a "maybe" (Grubauer, Raanta, even Halak or Mrazerk) for the 3rd season in a row? I still think they go for as sure thing as they can find. What that means I am not really sure... I would honestly not be surprised to see Miller/Johnson as our tandem for 2 years. I think Treliving will do his utmost to see if he can pry Murray or Schneider loose. I am not sure if MAF is their kind of guy or if he would even come here... Interesting times ahead...

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Lord Carnage

Have a question though... if Columbus were to trade us one of their young goalies (Korpisalo), that mean they still have to expose Forsberg (unless he's exempt, but I didn't think so).

That means they could go from having Bob and 2 great young potentials to having only Bob if Vegas were to take Forsberg.

Seems they'd rather keep both and be guaranteed of having one left after the process...???

On top of that, if you take Korpisalo off that team then maybe they don't take Forsberg, but they would definitely take Karlsson or whichever bigger-name D is exposed. If they take a goalie then no holes open up in the roster. If they don't, Columbus takes a bit of damage.

I don't think Columbus will trade a goaltender. If anything, I believe they'd want Vegas to take one of them. It's the lowest impact selection.

[Roof-Daddy]

I'm pretty sure Columbus is going to lose Jack Johnson no?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I'm pretty sure Columbus is going to lose Jack Johnson no?

Far more likely they take a forward. Johnson isn't the same player from 5-6 years ago. He'll probably be exposed (Murray might be instead) but they'll probably go forward before that.

Either way, Columbus is going to be hoping they take a goaltender, and removing the better backup all but guarantees Vegas will go after a forward or D instead.

If they trade Korpisalo, it will most likely be to help replace the type of player they lose in the ED. I don't see him as a pre-expansion bargain like some other goaltenders might be.

[EVERLAST]

Brought this up to several calgarypucker people off the forum this past week and we all must be crazy but all agreed that Price and Lundquist need a change of scenery.

I'm not saying they are the answer but at least explore the possibility. Hadn't read this entire thread but am sure I am the only one talking about Lundquist.

If we can have No interference by Edwards and his puppet maybe we get a real bonafide goalie. One can dream I guess.

[driveway]

Carey Price is UFA at the end of 2018. Remember how garbage Montreal was without him? If he's still their be-all and end-all next year is there a possibility he becomes available around trade deadline? If it's possible that he's heading for Free Agency, Montreal has to trade him, right? You can't let an asset that valuable walk for nothing, can you?

With Bishop seeming to be happy in Dallas - and the reports we were on his No-Trade List - I'm starting to think of Peter Mrazek as the guy most worth looking at.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by driveway

Carey Price is UFA at the end of 2018. Remember how garbage Montreal was without him? If he's still their be-all and end-all next year is there a possibility he becomes available around trade deadline? If it's possible that he's heading for Free Agency, Montreal has to trade him, right? You can't let an asset that valuable walk for nothing, can you?

With Bishop seeming to be happy in Dallas - and the reports we were on his No-Trade List - I'm starting to think of Peter Mrazek as the guy most worth looking at.

My biggest boldest will never happen dream right now is that despite Price saying all the right things to the media, he's really just wanting to move on from Montreal and when they get nowhere in extension talks Bergevin is forced to trade him to avoid the circus that would ensue all year long. And of course, along comes BT to swoop in and snag him. I mean, what a perfect time to bring in the best goaltender in the league right?

Anyways, in reality he probably signs a big fat extension with the Habs this summer and we watch through our fingers in fear as Elliot or MAF take the reigns in Calgary.

[Par]

With the Caps out, would you be happy with Holtby, the Caps will likely make changes.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Par

With the Caps out, would you be happy with Holtby, the Caps will likely make changes.

I would, but his acquisition cost will be high.

I have this sinking feeling that the Flames inability to develop a goalie is going to cost us big this offseason. Hope I'm wrong.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Par

With the Caps out, would you be happy with Holtby, the Caps will likely make changes.

Without question I'd be happy.

They would be idiots to get rid of him.

[CliffFletcher]

So much for the narrative that Fleury can't win the big game.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

So much for the narrative that Fleury can't win the big game.

Who said Fleury can't win the big game?

He already won a Cup, so nobody can say that.

What we can say is his performance has been wildly inconsistent, and he's prone to confidence issues and mental break downs that lead to early playoff exits for the juggernaut team he's played behind his whole career.

6 out of 11 playoff seasons with a save % below .900, and only 3 with a save % above .920

[1qqaaz]

Hopefully Fleary shuts out the rest of the playoffs so the Flames have a chance at Murray

[CGY12]

wrong thread

[MisterJoji]

For ####'s and giggles I thought I'd group together of the most likely guys who could "pull a Talbot" and become a solid starter who has primarily been a backup. I didn't include anyone over 28 or guys with over 100 GP.

Antti Raanta (27y)
Career Numbers: 47-23-9 / 2.33 / .917
Last Season: 16-8-2 / 2.27 / .922
Contract: Signed until 18/19 with AAV of $1,000,000

Philipp Grubauer (25y)
Career Numbers: 28-21-8 / 2.28 / .922
Last Season: 13-6-2 / 2.05 / .926
Contract: RFA (AAV $750,000)

Calvin Pickard (25y)
Career Numbers: 28-44-6/ 2.77 / .914
Last Season: 15-31-2 / 2.98 / .904
Contract: Signed until 18/19 with AAV of $1,000,000

Joonas Korpisalo (23y)
Career Numbers: 23-16-5 / 2.68 / .915
Last Season: 7-5-1 / 2.88 / .905
Contract: RFA (AAV $732,500)

Juuse Saros (22y)
Career Numbers: 10-9-3 / 2.38 / .922
Last Season: 10-8-3 / 2.35 / .923
Contract: Signed until 18/19 with AAV $692,500

Louis Domingue (25y)
Career Numbers: 27-35-7 / 2.88 / .910
Last Season: 11-15-1 / 3.08 / .908
Contract: RFA (AAV $1,050,000)

Aaron Dell (28y)
Career and Last Season: 11-6-1 / 1.99 / .931
Contract: Signed until 18/19 with AAV $625,000

Darcy Kuemper (27y)
Career Numbers: 41-34-14 / 2.60 / .910
Last Season: 8-5-3 / 3.13 / .902
Contract: RFA (AAV $1,550,000)

Anders Nilsson (28y)
Career Numbers: 29-32-8 / 2.94 / .908
Last Season: 10-10-4 / 2.67 / .923
Contract: UFA (AAV $1,000,000)

Mike Condon (27y)
Career Numbers: 40-39-12 / 2.62 / .908
Last Season: 19-14-6 / 2.50 / .914
Contract: UFA (AAV $575,000)

Michael Hutchinson (27y)
Career Numbers: 41-38-11 / 2.63 / .910
Last Season: 9-12-3 / 2.92 / .903
Contract: Signed until 18/19 with AAV of $1,150,000

Keith Kinkaid (27y)
Career Numbers: 23-27-8 / 2.68 / .912
Last Season: 8-13-3 / 2.64 / .916
Contract: UFA (AAV $725,000)


Rantaa and Grubauer seem to be the best options, I like Grubauer a little more since he has better numbers and is a little younger, although the acquisition cost would be higher. Dell also had a phenomenal season. Pickard has less than desirable numbers but he did play for a godawful team, however Kinkaid also played for a bad team but has more respectable stats. Saros is Nashville's heir apparent so that is probably a pipe dream. I really don't like Hutchinson's play in Winnipeg and Keumper had an awful year in Minny. Condon is interesting and the acquisition cost there is zero.

Personally I like this route better vs. grabbing an established guy to hold the fort for Gillies/Parsons. If neither guy pans out, we're back to square one, but if you get a young guy now and he becomes a good starter and either Gillies/Parsons also pans out, having 2 legitimate starting goaltenders is a nice problem to have.

Thoughts?

[AC]

Yep trade for Grubauer or Raanta.

Talbot cost a 2nd, 3rd, and 7th for reference.

[Alberta_Beef]

Darcy Kuemper is an option we don't really discuss.

[djsFlames]

Another one here hoping Fleury puts on a clinic right to the cup (sorry Sens). Murray becoming expendable - even if at a cost - would be great for the Flames, who undoubtedly would be in on that.

One of our treasured goalie prospects would have to go the other way, but luckily we have two that look promising (three if you count Rittich).

[Mister Yamoto]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Personally I like this route better vs. grabbing an established guy to hold the fort for Gillies/Parsons. If neither guy pans out, we're back to square one, but if you get a young guy now and he becomes a good starter and either Gillies/Parsons also pans out, having 2 legitimate starting goaltenders is a nice problem to have.

Thoughts?

Ya. A U28 goalie ideally an RFA would be the way to go. If it takes the 16th pick, so be it.