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Old 05-08-2017, 08:53 AM   #2421
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Well, the Tobacco scientists did have more information and new sooner that tobacco was likely causing cancer than the rest of academia.

Yes, you still need intelligent regulation but industry scientists have more resources at their disposal than their academic counterparts. If you can forge a real partnership to try to solve problems at the regulator level rather than a continuous adversarial relationship, society will be better off. Lower cost goods while maintaining environmental protections.

I don't think this is Pruits goal though.

I also don't like your analogy it isn't putting the fox in the henhouse. Its letting the farmer in the hen house. Now he might kill the goose that lays the golden eggs in order to profit however his goal of extracting wealth is in the farms benefit and some level of impact unlike the fox who is just a cancer on the well being of the farm. The fox in the hen house analogy is part of the problem in creating this adversarial relationship between regulators and corporations which is not productive.
I'm pretty sure the fox analogy is pretty apt, actually. Given that Exxon was conducting unprecidented climate change research forty years ago and then spent millions of dollars to muddy up the results of that data... I'd say they're being knowingly and willingly hurtful to this planet.

It's a pain to quote while on my phone, but this entire article is pretty damning.
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Dealing with the AER or ABSA when you get career regulators is painful. They just don't understand the purpose of what they are doing. And industry led reform of the regulations and applications often lead to the most economical solutions that still protect the environment. So under the right leader this type of approach could be positive.

However given Pruitts agenda this will unlikely be the result. Hopefully some of these corporations are concerned with public perception
Good god no. I work in O+G in Calgary and get to deal with the AER/SER/ABSA etc. I would never, EVER, want them to act like oil companies. There job is to protect and maximize the resource FOR THE PUBLIC, not a for-profit industry. They are there to protect us from ourselves. Alberta already gets a bad rap for the oil sands...if we let the foxes in to the hen house we'd look like Bakersfield CA or Nigerian Delta. Hard Pass.
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Former President Obama warned Donald Trump against hiring Mike Flynn as his national security adviser, three former Obama administration officials tell NBC News.

The warning, which has not been previously reported, came less than 48 hours after the November election when the two sat down for a 90-minute conversation in the Oval Office.

The revelation comes on a day that former acting Attorney General Sally Yates is expected to testify that Flynn misled the White House about his contacts with Russia's ambassador to the United States.


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[i]Former President Obama warned Donald Trump against hiring Mike Flynn as his national security adviser, three former Obama administration officials tell NBC News.
Haha, I can totally see the warning actually solidifying their stance to hire him.
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Just something to flavour your palate until Yates starts her testimony.


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“There has been considerable speculation about Trump’s physical and mental health, in part because few facts are known. During the campaign, his staff reported that he was six feet three inches tall and weighed two hundred and thirty-six pounds, which is considered overweight but not obese…

“Trump himself says that he is ‘not a big sleeper’ (‘I like three hours, four hours’) and professes a fondness for steak and McDonald’s. Other than golf, he considers exercise misguided, arguing that a person, like a battery, is born with a finite amount of energy.”

Yes, really.
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Good god no. I work in O+G in Calgary and get to deal with the AER/SER/ABSA etc. I would never, EVER, want them to act like oil companies. There job is to protect and maximize the resource FOR THE PUBLIC, not a for-profit industry. They are there to protect us from ourselves. Alberta already gets a bad rap for the oil sands...if we let the foxes in to the hen house we'd look like Bakersfield CA or Nigerian Delta. Hard Pass.
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So GOP game plan is to make this about leaks?
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Bi-partisan Pivot. Tow the line!
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That Senator Cornyn dude seems like a real d-bag, spending his entire segment grilling Yates about why she helped block Trump's Muslim ban. I thought this hearing was supposed to be about the Russia thing? The Muslim ban was lawfully blocked by the courts (twice!). STFU and let the next guy speak if you're not gonna talk about the issue at hand.
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Somebody needs to punch Cruz.
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Sally Yates is a beast. So proud of her standing up to ###### Bag Cruz.
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Gotta say, it's pretty entertaining watching Yates rip Cruz a new a-hole.
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More damning information is being released including that Obama warned Trump about Flynn with Trump still hiring him anyways. There is also substantial problem as Trumps transition team was flagrantly violating security protocol and removing crisis contingency plan documents outside of their secure locations and making copies of the documents.

I wonder who could possibly benefit from copies of US crisis playbooks. Can't think of anyone at all.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — In late November, a member of Donald Trump’s transition team approached national security officials in the Obama White House with a curious request: Could the incoming team get a copy of the classified CIA profile on Sergey Kislyak, Russia’s ambassador to the United States?

Marshall Billingslea, a former Pentagon and NATO official, wanted the information for his boss, Michael Flynn, who had been tapped by Trump to serve as White House national security adviser. Billingslea knew Flynn would be speaking to Kislyak, according to two former Obama administration officials, and seemed concerned Flynn did not fully understand he was dealing with a man rumored to have ties to Russian intelligence agencies.

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The outgoing White House also became concerned about the Trump team’s handling of classified information. After learning that highly sensitive documents from a secure room at the transition’s Washington headquarters were being copied and removed from the facility, Obama’s national security team decided to only allow the transition officials to view some information at the White House, including documents on the government’s contingency plans for crises.

Some White House advisers now privately concede that the administration moved too slowly during the election to publicly blame Russia for the hack and explore possible ties to the Trump campaign. Others say it was only after the election, once Obama ordered a comprehensive review of the election interference, that the full scope of Russia’s interference and potential Trump ties become clearer.
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wtf is Cruz talking about, what a dbag.
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coles notes for people that can't watch live?
Democrats ask about Russia and Flynn.
Republicans talk about leaks, unmasking and why Yates overruled the Muslim Ban EO,
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