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		|  05-04-2017, 01:51 PM | #3541 |  
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					Originally Posted by 868904  2nd round pick aka Jim Benning special.
 They've got two of them this year, so makes sense.  Just not sure what the expansion draft implications are on the Canucks end.
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The Sedins and Eriksson all have NMCs, so they have to be protected. Horvat led the team in goals and points this year, so he's a no-brainer for protected slot #4.
 
Baertschi, Granlund, and Sutter are most likely to round out their 7 protected forwards at this time. If they got Spooner, you have to assume one of those three would be left unprotected and likely be the player they lose to Vegas.
 
It's possible that they'd send one of Baertschi or Granlund to Boston in the deal. They both definitely outperformed their contracts this season and are signed to cheap deals for next season.
		 
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		|  05-06-2017, 06:54 PM | #3542 |  
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			What the hell, it's the off-season. Here's my PIPE-DREAM (because I know people will respond "lol... you think yadaadada?" June 21st -- Flames trade Bouma (50% retained), Rittich, and 2018 2nd rounder for Penguin's MA. FleuryJune 22nd -- Offers Kulak + Poirer to Vegas to take BrouwerJune 23rd -- Draft Callan FooteJune 27th -- Flames sign K. VersteegJune 28th -- Flames sign M. StoneJuly 1st -- Flames sign KulikovJuly 10th -- Flames trade Matt Stajan for Nail YakupovJuly 25th -- Flames trade rights to Hickey + Shinkaruk to New Jersey for Iyla Kovalchuk (signed)
 
Gaudreau - Monahan - Kovalchuk 
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik 
Bennett - Lazar - Versteeg 
Yakupov - Jankowski - Hathaway
 
Giordano - Hamilton 
Brodie - Stone 
Kulikov- Andersson 
Bartowski
 
Fleury 
Gillies
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		|  05-06-2017, 06:57 PM | #3543 |  
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			Not a chance that package is landing Kovalchuk, but everything else I somewhat like. Really unsure about Yakupov, though... and to play him on the fourth line? Why not just keep Stajan?
		 
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		|  05-06-2017, 06:58 PM | #3544 |  
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			salary cap be damned
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		|  05-06-2017, 07:04 PM | #3546 |  
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					Originally Posted by MarkGio  What the hell, it's the off-season. Here's my PIPE-DREAM (because I know people will respond "lol... you think yadaadada?" June 21st -- Flames trade Bouma (50% retained), Rittich, and 2018 2nd rounder for Penguin's MA. FleuryJune 22nd -- Offers Kulak + Poirer to Vegas to take BrouwerJune 23rd -- Draft Callan FooteJune 27th -- Flames sign K. VersteegJune 28th -- Flames sign M. StoneJuly 1st -- Flames sign KulikovJuly 10th -- Flames trade Matt Stajan for Nail YakupovJuly 25th -- Flames trade rights to Hickey + Shinkaruk to New Jersey for Iyla Kovalchuk (signed)
 
Gaudreau - Monahan - Kovalchuk 
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik 
Bennett - Lazar - Versteeg 
Yakupov - Jankowski - Hathaway
 
Giordano - Hamilton 
Brodie - Stone 
Kulikov- Andersson 
Bartowski
 
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		|  05-06-2017, 08:14 PM | #3547 |  
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					Originally Posted by TheScorpion  Not a chance that package is landing Kovalchuk, but everything else I somewhat like. Really unsure about Yakupov, though... and to play him on the fourth line? Why not just keep Stajan? |  
I just don't know about Kovalchuk. He hasn't been in the NHL for a long time. And who knows, he might only be signed for 1 year. I can't see a team gambling on a long term deal because he could just "retire" again, especially considering the pressure to represent team Russia.
 
I just can't see teams giving up an arm and a leg for him, knowing the risks involved with him.
 
With regards to Yakupov. Playing with energy has never been his issue. He has no problem moving his feet. It's his IQ thats holding him back. I think he would make a decent energy winger with a good release, and who knows, maybe he finds the right linemates to get him back to his rookie-year form
		 
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		|  05-06-2017, 08:16 PM | #3548 |  
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					Originally Posted by MarkGio  What the hell, it's the off-season. Here's my PIPE-DREAM (because I know people will respond "lol... you think yadaadada?" June 21st -- Flames trade Bouma (50% retained), Rittich, and 2018 2nd rounder for Penguin's MA. FleuryJune 22nd -- Offers Kulak + Poirer to Vegas to take BrouwerJune 23rd -- Draft Callan FooteJune 27th -- Flames sign K. VersteegJune 28th -- Flames sign M. StoneJuly 1st -- Flames sign KulikovJuly 10th -- Flames trade Matt Stajan for Nail YakupovJuly 25th -- Flames trade rights to Hickey + Shinkaruk to New Jersey for Iyla Kovalchuk (signed)
 
Gaudreau - Monahan - Kovalchuk 
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik 
Bennett - Lazar - Versteeg 
Yakupov - Jankowski - Hathaway
 
Giordano - Hamilton 
Brodie - Stone 
Kulikov- Andersson 
Bartowski
 
Fleury 
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It would be better if we just gave Stajan away. Yakupov has no redeeming qualities as a hockey player. I do blame St. Louis for not riding him to his full potential this year though, somewhere deep inside is a consistent 7 goal man.
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		|  05-06-2017, 08:56 PM | #3549 |  
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					Originally Posted by MarkGio  I just don't know about Kovalchuk. He hasn't been in the NHL for a long time. And who knows, he might only be signed for 1 year. I can't see a team gambling on a long term deal because he could just "retire" again, especially considering the pressure to represent team Russia.
 I just can't see teams giving up an arm and a leg for him, knowing the risks involved with him.
 
 With regards to Yakupov. Playing with energy has never been his issue. He has no problem moving his feet. It's his IQ thats holding him back. I think he would make a decent energy winger with a good release, and who knows, maybe he finds the right linemates to get him back to his rookie-year form
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If Radulov can get what he did, you can bet teams will take the chance on Kovalchuk. Why wouldn't NJ just keep him instead of taking that package?
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		|  05-06-2017, 09:12 PM | #3550 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jason14h  If Radulov can get what he did, you can bet teams will take the chance on Kovalchuk. Why wouldn't NJ just keep him instead of taking that package? |  
If he doesn't want to play in Jersey then they have to take whatever package the team he wants to play for will give them, because it's better than the nothing they will get by not trading him which would result in Kovy just going back to Russia.
 
Now, if there is 2 or more teams that Kovy is willing to go to, and 2 or more of those teams want to trade for him, then they would get a better return.
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		|  05-06-2017, 10:01 PM | #3551 |  
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					Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy  If he doesn't want to play in Jersey then they have to take whatever package the team he wants to play for will give them, because it's better than the nothing they will get by not trading him which would result in Kovy just going back to Russia.
 Now, if there is 2 or more teams that Kovy is willing to go to, and 2 or more of those teams want to trade for him, then they would get a better return.
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Sure but I'm pretty sure the Flames aren't the 1 team he wants to go too!
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		|  05-06-2017, 10:03 PM | #3552 |  
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			I'd like the Flames to trade for Mike Cammalleri at 20% retained. Would be two more years at four million.
		 
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		|  05-06-2017, 10:06 PM | #3553 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jason14h  Sure but I'm pretty sure the Flames aren't the 1 team he wants to go too! |  
Oh yeah I agree with that.
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		|  05-06-2017, 10:11 PM | #3554 |  
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					Originally Posted by TheScorpion  I'd like the Flames to trade for Mike Cammalleri at 20% retained. Would be two more years at four million. |  
Why? That doesn't sound appealing at all.
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		|  05-06-2017, 10:17 PM | #3555 |  
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			Adding 2 expensive Russian floaters to our forward line up ????? WTF
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		|  05-06-2017, 10:37 PM | #3556 |  
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			I'd target really young players from other team, Gauthier from Carolina if possible and guys like that...I don't think he's will be in a rush to Miley e them but I'd be targeting young guys not older ones.
		 
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		|  05-06-2017, 11:04 PM | #3557 |  
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					Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy  Why? That doesn't sound appealing at all. |  
Cammy fits the sniper role that we lack, so I get the appeal. He's also a competitive guy and all around awesome human (and he loves Calgary).
 
I'd love to see Cammy back. He could be the winger for Bennett 5v5 and play 1st line PP on the off-wing.
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		|  05-07-2017, 12:57 AM | #3558 |  
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					Originally Posted by TheScorpion  I'd like the Flames to trade for Mike Cammalleri at 20% retained. Would be two more years at four million. |  
I get he's a good shooter but we really don't need any more small forwards on the team.
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		|  05-07-2017, 01:18 AM | #3559 |  
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					Originally Posted by Otto-matic  I get he's a good shooter but we really don't need any more small forwards on the team. |  
Really?
 
List of small forwards on the Flames:
 
Gaudreau 
Versteeg 
Lazar
 
Everyone else is 6'1" or taller. Heck, Lazar is six feet.
		 
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		|  05-07-2017, 02:12 AM | #3560 |  
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					Originally Posted by Corral  Adding 2 expensive Russian floaters to our forward line up ????? WTF |  
When has Kovalchuk ever been a floater?
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