Who do you WANT the Flames Starting Goalie To Be Next Season [*NEW POLL 12·05·17]

[The Yen Man]

I still think the Pens are going to find a way to keep both Fleury and Murray. I don't think they're completely sold on Murray to do a full year workload based on his injury history.

I feel like they're going to make some kind of deal with the Golden Knights to not take Murray.

[Young_Guns]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

You can add Carolina and Winnipeg to your list of teams needing a goalie. If Fleury refuses to waive to Calgary because he wants to play in the states the Pens either move him to Dallas, buy him out, or trade Murray for a huge return

True, but Carolina isn't a spender and they just traded for Darling (not sure what does for them right now). They also still have Lack and Ward for another year each, and I know Lack isn't in the coaches good books there. Winnipeg is interesting. Traditionally a place players don't want to play. That said, I wouldn't say Calgary is that much of a better place to play than Winnipeg. So if Fleury was to say no to Winnipeg, he could very well say the same thing to Calgary. I don't think Dallas can make it work. They need to do something about their 2 goalies that are there already. Do they buy one of them out? Who knows? One thing I can say for sure, Penguins WILL NOT trade Murray. Fleury is def on the way out. Fleury may just want to remain in the States somewhere. That being said, the only option may end up being Vegas lol. All I am saying if the Flames had a choice to sign Bishop long term at a high price, or pick up Fleury for rather cheap and still get a couple of good years out of him, I would take Fleury.

[Young_Guns]

If you were MAF, where would you like to play?

Vegas: Expansion team, likely to struggle for a few years.
Dallas: Probably the ideal choice for him, but they have a couple of goalies already signed and likely no takers.
Vancouver: Desirable location but a team in rebuild, Canadian team pressure, older team, questionable management.
Winnipeg: Traditionally an undesirable location, Canadian team pressure, smaller town.
Calgary: Potentially an undesirable location, Canadian team pressure, younger team.
Carolina: Uncertain future (relocation talks/rumors have gone on for a couple of years).
Colorado: A team in full rebuild and in trouble from top to bottom.

[Imported_Aussie]

Fleury would be my choice. Murray is their guy for the future, so Pittsburgh have to move on from Fleury. He is signed for 2 years, which is much less term than any of these other options would command, which creates a window for Gillies/Parsons. If Fleury plays well and likes it here, they can extend at that point, or start to transition to Gillies with a 1B backup.
The pipeline to me looks like Gillies in 2 years, Parsons 4 years, others are question marks. Fleury keeps the playoff window going, then allows young guys to be brought on.

[Vinny01]

Dallas 100% does something with their goalies next year. They either buy one out or pay a premium for another team to take one of them. Perhaps the price for Fleury goes up and Dallas sends a prospect or higher pick to the Pens if they take Niemi as the backup for one year?

No way Dallas doesn't do something in net. Fleury makes a ton of sense for them

[Young_Guns]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Dallas 100% does something with their goalies next year. They either buy one out or pay a premium for another team to take one of them. Perhaps the price for Fleury goes up and Dallas sends a prospect or higher pick to the Pens if they take Niemi as the backup for one year?

No way Dallas doesn't do something in net. Fleury makes a ton of sense for them

Very true, but if they were to send one of those goalies as a back up to PIT, they would have to eat a lot of salary. They may be better off signing Bishop and buying one guy out and not sending picks to sweeten the pot? Kind of a similar situation to Calgary though. Maybe it just comes down to CGY and DAL, who knows. Dallas is in a tougher spot than Calgary as they would have a lot more work to do to make a trade work. Either way, the Flames have a couple of good goalies to choose from this year.

[PepsiFree]

I believe neither Colorado or Carolina are in the market for a goaltender at this point. Winnipeg seems questionable for any big acquisition with Helle being the heir apparent.

[Young_Guns]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I believe neither Colorado or Carolina are in the market for a goaltender at this point. Winnipeg seems questionable for any big acquisition with Helle being the heir apparent.

Are they completely sold on Hellebuyck though?

[dino7c]

Jets are not going to get a big money goal tender IMO

Budget team with a Canadian dollar tanking, they will go the cheap young guy route

[Roof-Daddy]

I think Elliott will be a prime target for Winnipeg.

He's not going to get starter money after an up and down year, and having him will help them bring Hellebuyck along the way the Blues brought Allen along.

Elliott isn't going to get a full starter work load anywhere right now.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I still think the Pens are going to find a way to keep both Fleury and Murray. I don't think they're completely sold on Murray to do a full year workload based on his injury history.

I feel like they're going to make some kind of deal with the Golden Knights to not take Murray.

it better be a heckuva deal... because if I were the Knights and saw a 24 year old potential franchise goalie sitting there for nothing, there's not a lot the Penguins could offer that would change my mind...

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

it better be a heckuva deal... because if I were the Knights and saw a 24 year old potential franchise goalie sitting there for nothing, there's not a lot the Penguins could offer that would change my mind...

Yah, it will be real interesting this off season for sure. I'm fascinated with how the expansion draft will go and all the deals that are going to occur on that day.

[bubbsy]

Im even more satisfied with my vote for fleury after watching the playoffs thus far. Dude is dialed in.

[kukkudo]

I just don't see Penguins giving away Fleury with the way he is playing. Pens will give vegas a pick or something to avoid picking there goalies.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

I just don't see Penguins giving away Fleury with the way he is playing. Pens will give vegas a pick or something to avoid picking there goalies.

A pick won't get it done though. Vegas would rather have Murray than a pick in the 25-31 range. If Pittsburgh can't trade Fleury or get him to waive his NMC, they will buy him out.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

I just don't see Penguins giving away Fleury with the way he is playing. Pens will give vegas a pick or something to avoid picking there goalies.

There is nothing outside of Crosby or Malkin I would take to not select Murray. They could give 2 1st rounders and I take Murray over those.

What has happened they have put themselves in a position to move Fleury for a much better return than they would have if he was riding the pine these playoffs.

He really is the perfect fit for Calgary

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

He really is the perfect fit for Calgary

Because of a good few weeks? Let's be honest here we get the same ups and downs by bringing Elliott back but won't cost as much against the cap or in terms of assets.

[AC]

I like the idea of Fleury, but he would get eaten alive here by the fans and media.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Because of a good few weeks? Let's be honest here we get the same ups and downs by bringing Elliott back but won't cost as much against the cap or in terms of assets.

He has 6 seasons of 60+ starts and another with 58. Elliott started 55 games 1 season 7 years ago. Elliott cost the Flames 2 of 4 playoff games and had stretches where he was simply awful this year. He had a great run late to get his overall numbers back to respectability but I am so done with him as our goalie. I wasn't stoked when we got him (loved the price so I came around to the deal quickly) but for a large part of the season I wanted him gone. I also advocated trading for Bishop at the deadline so never have and likely never will believe in Elliott

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

There is nothing outside of Crosby or Malkin I would take to not select Murray. They could give 2 1st rounders and I take Murray over those.

What has happened they have put themselves in a position to move Fleury for a much better return than they would have if he was riding the pine these playoffs.

He really is the perfect fit for Calgary

this...

i'd have never have guessed that MAF would be able to bounce back like this, so kudos to him - seems like a great guy, so I am happy for him.

for Penguins, they have to be happy too... bittersweet as i understand that MAF is beloved by his team mates... but I am sure they will be able trade him before the expansion draft for a good return.

Before this playoff run, i'd have thought that they'd only get a 3rd round pick..tops

I think Calgary might be refocusing on MAF as a result of this run... so, term and AVV and what the Penguins would be looking at to secure his rights will come into play against what Bishop is asking...

but just like the saying, "Beware the Ides of March", Treliving should equally "Beware of the Saves of April"!

We need look no further than Elliott and even MAF in past playoffs.