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				Agreed but they might not bridge Bennett (as discussed in that thread).  Would you give Bennett $3 on a long term gamble?  Maybe. 
			
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No way Bennett signs for $3M per for a long term deal it won't happen. If he goes long term the Flames pay for potential and it is in the $4.5-$5.5M range on a 6-8 year deal. Personally I don't see the Flames taking that risk and I think Bennett is the type of player that would bet on himself and take a 2-3 year bridge around $2.5-$3M per
 
Bennett had a sophomore slump but still put up 36pts as a 19 year old rookie those numbers are not bad
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2017, 03:25 PM
			
			
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			Let's throw everything into a blender. How would this roster shape up? 
 
Tkachuk - Monahan - Brouwer 
Bouma - Backlund - Lazar 
Gaudreau - Bennett - Ferland 
Versteeg - Jankowski - Frolik 
Vey 
 
Giordano - Stone 
Kulak - Hamilton 
Kylington - Brodie 
Bartkowski 
 
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			05-03-2017, 03:39 PM
			
			
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				No way Bennett signs for $3M per for a long term deal it won't happen. If he goes long term the Flames pay for potential and it is in the $4.5-$5.5M range on a 6-8 year deal. Personally I don't see the Flames taking that risk and I think Bennett is the type of player that would bet on himself and take a 2-3 year bridge around $2.5-$3M per 
 
Bennett had a sophomore slump but still put up 36pts as a 19 year old rookie those numbers are not bad 
			
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Yeah, as I typed I thought $3 was really light for a long term deal.  The Flames would be all over that and Bennett fires his agent.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2017, 03:58 PM
			
			
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				Let's throw everything into a blender. How would this roster shape up? 
 
Tkachuk - Monahan - Brouwer 
Bouma - Backlund - Lazar 
Gaudreau - Bennett - Ferland 
Versteeg - Jankowski - Frolik 
Vey 
 
Giordano - Stone 
Kulak - Hamilton 
Kylington - Brodie 
Bartkowski 
 
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So you are going to give your best offensive player 3rd line icetime? I don't think so.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2017, 04:09 PM
			
			
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				So you are going to give your best offensive player 3rd line icetime? I don't think so. 
			
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Did... you read the top of the post? I was just mixing up the team's lines, the order matters not.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-03-2017, 04:21 PM
			
			
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				Maybe he meant raises to that amount.  That's a bit more feasible. 
			
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Yes, perhaps the numbers may be a bit high for Bennett's bridge deal, and maybe Ferland is a tad too high also?
 
Gaudreau (6,750,000) - Monahan (6,375,000) - Tkachuk (925,000) 
Jankowski (925,000) - Backlund (3,575,000) - Frolik (4,300,000)
 Ferland (2,000,000) -  Bennett (3,000,000) -  Chiasson (840,000)
Lazar (874,125) - Stajan (3,125,000) - Brouwer (4,500,000) 
Bouma (2,200,000) - Hamilton (612,500)
 
Giordano (6,750,000) - Hamilton (5,750,000) 
Brodie (4,650,400) - ______
 Kulak (660,000) - Andersson (650,400) 
Bartkowski (612,500)
 
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 Rittich (874,125)
Salary Cap: 76 million 
Bonuses/Buyout (Raymond) $1,570,000 
Total Cap Hit: $61,135,317 
Cap Space available: $14,864,683
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2017, 04:44 PM
			
			
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			Love Stajan, but I'm going to pretty disappointed if one of our young centers aren't able to push him out of the line up next season by simply being better than he is now. 
 
Monahan 
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Bennett 
 
 
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			06-17-2017, 01:57 PM
			
			
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			Might as well take a swing at it with Smith now. 
Stajan to Vegas 
Still need to drop one forward. 
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			06-24-2017, 03:50 PM
			
			
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			Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland 
Lazar - Backlund - Frolik 
Tkachuk - Bennett - Versteeg 
Stajan - Jankowski - Brouwer 
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			06-24-2017, 04:22 PM
			
			
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			Gaudreau-Monahan-Prybl 
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik 
Ferland-Bennett-Lazar  
Stajan-Jankowski-Brouwer 
Hathaway 
 
Giordano-Hamilton 
Brodie-Hamonic 
Kulak-Andersson 
Wotherspoon 
 
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I'd be comfortable with that, and gilles getting tonnes of time in the AHL. 
 
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			06-24-2017, 04:30 PM
			
			
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			Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Micheal Ferland 
Matthew Tkachuk - Sam Bennett - Justin Williams 
Michael Frolik - Mikael Backlund - Curtis Lazar 
Matt Stajan - Mark Jankowski - Alex Chiasson / Troy Brouwer 
Familton 
 
Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton 
TJ Brodie - Travis Hamonic 
Brett Kulak - Michael Stone / Rasmus Andersson 
Matt Bartkowski 
 
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			06-24-2017, 04:34 PM
			
			
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			Tkachuk - Monahan - Gaudreau 
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik 
Versteeg - Bennett - Ferland  
Brouwer - Lazar - Iginla   
F. Hamilton, Hathaway 
 
Trade Stajan 
Bury Bouma  
Chiasson walks 
 
Giordano - Hamilton 
Brodie - Hamonic 
Andersson - Stone 
 
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			06-24-2017, 04:39 PM
			
			
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			Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - James Neal 
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Michael Frolik 
Micheal Ferland - Sam Bennett - Curtis Lazar  
Matt Stajan - Mark Jankowski - Troy Brouwer 
 
Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton 
T.J. Brodie - Travis Hamonic  
Brett Kulak - Michael Stone  
 
Mike Smith 
David Rittich 
 
Neal is probably wishful thinking, but who knows... Marleau or Williams instead perhaps...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2017, 05:22 PM
			
			
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				Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - James Neal 
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Michael Frolik 
Micheal Ferland - Sam Bennett - Curtis Lazar  
Matt Stajan - Mark Jankowski - Troy Brouwer 
 
Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton 
T.J. Brodie - Travis Hamonic  
Brett Kulak - Michael Stone  
 
Mike Smith 
David Rittich 
 
Neal is probably wishful thinking, but who knows... Marleau or Williams instead perhaps... 
			
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Not a bad team at all!  Switch Neal for Radulov and I'm with you (although getting Neal would be nice too, if Radulov is not available).
 
Also, no way they're letting Lazar play on the 3rd while Brouwer plays 4th.  I mean, he's overpaid, yes, but he played better than a 4th liner.
 
Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Alexander Radulov 
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Michael Frolik 
Micheal Ferland - Sam Bennett - Troy Brouwer 
Matt Stajan - Mark Jankowski - Curtis Lazar 
 
Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton 
T.J. Brodie - Travis Hamonic  
Brett Kulak - Michael Stone 
 
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			06-24-2017, 07:23 PM
			
			
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			Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland 
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik 
Bonino - Bennett - Brouwer  
Jankowski - Stajan - Bouma 
Thorburn 
 
Giordano - Hamilton 
Brodie - Hamonic 
Kulak - Andersson 
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			06-24-2017, 07:38 PM
			
			
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			Elliott is impossible.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2017, 07:46 PM
			
			
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			^Is he? Are there any teams left who need a starting goaltender? Given that, how many teams are willing to give him money/term? Is it outside the realm of possibility he takes 1 year 3 million? And really, which of the following goaltending tandems would you be the most comfortable going into the season with:  
 
Smith - Johnson; Smith - Rittich; Smith - Elliott; Smith - Gillies  
 
I mean, I'm still kinda hoping for Steve Mason, but with Smith here for 4+ million that seems more unlikely than resigning Elliott.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2017, 07:52 PM
			
			
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Yes because the 3rd round pick that the Flames would need to give St. Louis was traded to Arizona (even though that will end up being a 2nd).
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2017, 07:54 PM
			
			
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			Right, completely forgot about that pick.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2017, 07:59 PM
			
			
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			How much do you want to pay for Bonino? Isn't he that typical Stanley Cup playoff performer that gets severely overpaid in free agency?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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