05-01-2017, 02:40 PM
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I loved the book and can't wait to see the show.
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05-02-2017, 10:38 AM
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I got about 10 minutes into the show last night before I turned it off. Style wise I'm not a fan. I'll give it another go tonight.
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I don't know if you gave it another chance, but the first 10 minutes are completely different from the rest of the episode (and likely the rest of the series). That bit with the Vikings is just the prologue.
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05-02-2017, 02:09 PM
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That was an outstanding episode, never even heard of the book and came in not seeing any trailers, wow, can't wait for the next episode.
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05-02-2017, 02:18 PM
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That was an outstanding episode, never even heard of the book and came in not seeing any trailers, wow, can't wait for the next episode.
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Pretty much sums up my feelings as well. What a ride.
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05-02-2017, 02:21 PM
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Never read the book but I'll be following this show because of Bryan Fuller. I loved Hannibal.
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05-02-2017, 02:26 PM
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Never read the book but I'll be following this show because of Bryan Fuller. I loved Hannibal.
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Couldn't say it better.
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05-02-2017, 03:00 PM
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As an actual "Read the book/enjoy Gaiman" guy, it was a very solid representation of the first ~40 or so pages of the first book.
Very well done, looking forward to the rest of the series.
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05-02-2017, 08:56 PM
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As an actual "Read the book/enjoy Gaiman" guy, it was a very solid representation of the first ~40 or so pages of the first book.
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I haven't read it in a while but I agree, because it all came rushing back. That being said, being a faithful representation doesn't always do the trick. The best example I can think of is Snyder's Watchmen movie. That thing was very true to the book for the most part, did everything in order and only really took liberties with the ending (which had to be done). Yet it completely lacked the magic of the source material, because it just didn't translate. You needed the nuance and detail that don't show up on screen.
I'm probably being overly pessimistic but I am just cautious. I just think if you were going to make a Gaiman work into an HBO show, frankly, even Sandman would've been easier than this to swing.
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05-02-2017, 09:10 PM
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I haven't read it in a while but I agree, because it all came rushing back. That being said, being a faithful representation doesn't always do the trick. The best example I can think of is Snyder's Watchmen movie. That thing was very true to the book for the most part, did everything in order and only really took liberties with the ending (which had to be done). Yet it completely lacked the magic of the source material, because it just didn't translate. You needed the nuance and detail that don't show up on screen.
I'm probably being overly pessimistic but I am just cautious. I just think if you were going to make a Gaiman work into an HBO show, frankly, even Sandman would've been easier than this to swing.
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A reasonable take. Honestly though, Gaiman to me is like a digestive cookie. They're actually pretty tasty, comfortable and filling, but dry as hell. Gaiman has excellent storytelling, characterization, and world-building, but his literary pacing and overall feel are just always a bit lacking to me, in no novel more than American Gods (though I do appreciate that is has less forced whimsy than books like Neverwhere and Stardust).
I honestly believe Bryan Fuller is the kind of producer that can pull this off, because he knows pacing, his visualizations are (already evidently) excellent and visceral, and he adds that much needed "wetness" to the dry material.
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05-03-2017, 06:32 AM
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Yeah they definitely got the right guy. Hannibal is one of the most underrated, underappreciated shows ever made. Although he doesn't have Mads Mikkelsen this time around.
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05-03-2017, 08:20 AM
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Yeah they definitely got the right guy. Hannibal is one of the most underrated, underappreciated shows ever made. Although he doesn't have Mads Mikkelsen this time around.
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While true, having to make do with Ian McShane and Pablo Schreiber isnt so bad.
Fuller is a magician. I know nothing about the books or back story and I thought the first episode was awesome.
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05-07-2017, 07:19 PM
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Another episode in, and I'm getting hooked. Each new character is given such panache and style, and they're also given some depth and character motivation at the same time. That's hard to pull off.
They are taking their time with it, which I appreciate, as it follows a more literary pacing than TV shows often do. With hits from other very long and tedious books, I hope that there's enough of an audience to stick with it, even though the plot is being revealed very, very slowly. My wife still has no idea what's going on, and I doubt that anyone watching this show who HASN'T read the book has any idea either. The pacing of this show isn't for everyone, but hopefully there's enough cool #### in each episode to keep people watching.
That opening scene with Anansi was ####ing incredible.
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05-07-2017, 08:02 PM
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That was the most Bryan Fuller thing that ever Bryan Fuller'd.
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05-09-2017, 12:21 PM
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Great second episode. Series wiener count is at 4 so far.
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05-09-2017, 12:37 PM
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I laughed out loud at the dick pic scene.
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05-14-2017, 11:36 PM
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I laughed at most of episode 3 it was cringe worthy bad. 1st episode was promising but now, well watch it for the unintentional lulz I guess.
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05-15-2017, 11:52 AM
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I laughed at most of episode 3 it was cringe worthy bad. 1st episode was promising but now, well watch it for the unintentional lulz I guess.
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I'm fairly certain that was the point.
Its a show that going to have some stylistic episodes, the biggest issue I can see with this show is that its accumulating too many characters.
If you're going to have Gods and then all of their various subservients you're going to amass a lot of characters and thats going to get unwieldy in a hurry.
I particularly enjoyed Ian Mcshane's dialogue about Mexican Jesus.
"Ask him! He'll tell you!"
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05-15-2017, 09:10 PM
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I laughed at most of episode 3 it was cringe worthy bad. 1st episode was promising but now, well watch it for the unintentional lulz I guess.
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Thought it was a less-good episode (really just a plot-bridging episode, necessary for further plot development), but cringe-worthy? Sorry you find a dude ####ing a genie to be "cringe inducing" bro.
Wiener count is now at 5 btw.
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05-16-2017, 04:39 AM
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That was an interesting episode, but the pacing was a bit slow, with too many long shots where little happens. Add in the fact that the main plot was broken up in the middle by the fairly long genie story, and really the whole episode had issues with plot development and pacing.
I was happy to finally see Mad Sweeney's bad luck situation. That will make for some interesting scenes going forward.
Oh, and Scott Thompson sighting!!! Awesome!
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05-16-2017, 08:02 AM
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The TV series is really sticking to the book very closely. Not like Game of Thrones where big junks are missing or changed.
Might be why you think the pacing is slow, but if they want to go two seasons on one book they don't have much choice.
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