[News] Flames sign Treliving to multi year contract extension

[dammage79]

Truly the biggest re-signing for the Flames this offseason.

That being said. All the hubbub surrounding this was due to Freidman and his surprisingly sensationalist reporting of this.

It was a no brained from any angle even if the Kk meddling was true. He's earned his new deal through a solid first tenure.

[Vinny01]

Glad the organization made the right call and retained Treliving. I am disappointed in how this ordeal played out and hope they have learned their lesson. I feel the Flames have rebuilt their solid reputation that was tarnished under Feaster. With the delays in getting this contract done some of those old skeletons fell out of the closet and whispers of Ken King and Murray Edwards meddling in Hockey Ops resurfaced. Similar allegations were commonplace during the Feaster days.

The media speculated for weeks about the fact Treliving didn't have a deal. It was just foolish to let it hang out for so long. He should have had his extension mid-season and this should have been a non issue.

[Ryan Coke]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah, I hate that they're making that the conversation. Go ahead and completely ignore October-December and just say the fans are overreacting to 4 bad games.

Like, no. No. He was bad for half his season, fantastic for half his season, and piss awful in the playoffs. That's not what you want from a #1 goalie. You need consistency from a #1.

I totally agree with you, but have to point out that saying he was good for half the season and better after December is also being very generous.

He was very bad through almost all of January, until game 52 when he beat Ottawa on January 26th after the Montreal beat down. He was bad through the first 4 months and 51 games, and got it together for the last 2 months and 31 games.

I see absolutely no reason why he would return, regardless of cost.

[CGY12]

I agree with most that overall I like what Treliving has done (minus the goaltending situation). The Flames are in a better position now than when he took over.

I also don't see any problem with the way the Flames handled the situation. At the end of the day it's a results oriented business and with the way the Flames started the season and how the team was performing in January, I can see why they didn't rush to re-up Treviling. At that point everybody was speculating on whether the GG hire and bringing in Elliot was the correct decision. I'm assuming so was ownership and management. The team finally bought in and started playing some good hockey, which led to a playoff birth.

They probably didn't want to shift his focus from the team to contract negotiations during the trade deadline and leading up to the playoffs, as I'm sure he already had a lot on his plate. The Flames got eliminated and couple weeks later they got through the nitty gritty and he's been resigned.

The overreaction by some fans and the media to him not having been extended was over blown IMO. I don't think GMs should be completely different from players and coaches in terms of that good old saying "show me what you've done lately" to earn that extension.

Now he has plenty of time to shift his focus and prepare for the expansion draft and the entry draft.

[fire_starter]

Excellent news!

Did anyone catch the segment on the fan? I missed it.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by fire_starter

Excellent news!

Did anyone catch the segment on the fan? I missed it.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/960/the-big-...-kerr-may-1st/


Nothing earth-shattering.

[transplant99]

Treliving will be on with Boomer and Warrener at 8 am for those who want to hear what he says about the process.

[JohnnyTitan]

I'm happy. I think Treliving has done a good job and he adds an aura of professionalism to the team.

Everytime I hear what Benning is up to or think about Chia Pet's porn-stache I'm glad the Flames are professionally represented by our GM.

No doubt his next three years will be even better than his first three. This expansion draft makes the playing field over the next two months especially complicated. We need Tree!

Yes -> I'm speculating it's three years!

[jer_33]

Great news guys.. Treliving comes across as an honest hard-working GM (much like Burke, but without the bluster).

It was an odd situation, and a very risky one from an organizational standpoint. The more I think about it however - I'm more convinced that it wasn't the team with cold feet, it was either Treliving putting himself in an excellent negotiating situation, or he legitimately was ready to consider other offers.

Either way - it worked out for everyone.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Truly the biggest re-signing for the Flames this offseason.

That being said. All the hubbub surrounding this was due to Freidman and his surprisingly sensationalist reporting of this.

It was a no brained from any angle even if the Kk meddling was true. He's earned his new deal through a solid first tenure.

I agree. Friedman dropped a notch in my books with the repeated smoke screen. He had been one of the better sources of to that point. Won't trust his reporting as much from now on.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

I agree. Friedman dropped a notch in my books with the repeated smoke screen. He had been one of the better sources of to that point. Won't trust his reporting as much from now on.

Yes, his constantly repeating this foolishness reminded me of Doug MacLean banging on about Dougie Hamilton trades.

[ComixZone]

...yes, dismiss a guy who never outright said it wouldn't get done, just that something seems off. You, and all of your inside knowledge must know for a fact that there was nothing off, and that negotiations were a walk in the park.

[TheFlamesVan]

Reporting on "something being off", isn't reporting. It's speculating.

[bax]

Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan

Reporting on "something being off", isn't reporting. It's speculating.

So? That's part of Friedman's job. He's one of the best in the business and he isn't wrong that the way the Flames handled this is strange compared to the rest of the league.

Don't get why people are mad at him?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by bax

So? That's part of Friedman's job. He's one of the best in the business and he isn't wrong that the way the Flames handled this is strange compared to the rest of the league.

Don't get why people are mad at him?

I agree that people shouldn't be mad at him, but quite often in these discussions, it is taken as the word of god and anyone who takes "rumours" with a grain of salt, get ripped apart. If you say anything counter to Friedman or others like him, some people seem to get really upset about it.

"Try to follow along... Friedman said 'blah, blah', so your opinion makes no sense..."

[PepsiFree]

Nothing big said on the morning show, but a few things stuck out:

- likes the improvement on and off ice (mentioned staffing, business practices) but knows they've entered the "expectations stage" where just getting into the playoffs isn't enough
- gave some credit to the goalies for their good play during the season (which made up for the bad play), but didn't seem enthusiastic on either of them, also specifically mentioned not judging them on four playoff games but the season as a whole
- mentioned all those unsigned staff contracts, says there might be some changes but it should all get done quickly
- reiterated that he and Flames spoke throughout season and agreed on extension, so wasn't worried or exploring opportunities (though mentioned the wait did not please his wife, family apparently loves it here)
- talked about Troy Brouwer being a huge addition to the room, mentioned the improved attitude of the locker room and Troy's role, says he fully expect him to improve statistically next year, but knows that there are expectations that come with a big contract (which he needs to meet)


Overall, nothing huge. Though, after talking I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Brouwer was protected either by list or by sending a pick over. Just by the way he talked about him, I think it's about a 100% guarantee that he is not going to actively try to get Vegas to take him. Might still expose him, but I don't think Tre's in a rush to see him go.

[Erick Estrada]

He's not going to admit it but I highly doubt he would be the least bit upset if LV takes Brouwer off his hands. The fact that his name was brought up in a question means the contract is probably going to dog him as long as the player is on the team and not fulfilling expectations. I imagine the odd scout or assistant coach may be let go when he says there might be some changes. Nothing really newsworthy although I did like the opening where they asking him if he liked annual goaltending searches.

[Bingo]

I think it was odd that they left this until 6 weeks before the draft. Even more odd that Treliving confirmed much of his own staff need new contracts right away as well.

I think you want to make sure you have the head of your hockey operations focused on the mid to long term and not wondering if his contract will run out and not be renewed. I think the Flames were honestly on to something when they hired Sutter to that non hockey contract that wasn't a term.

But a look at Flames history will show you something.

All rookie GMs

Cliff Fletcher
Doug Risebrough
Al Coates
Craig Button
Darryl Sutter
Jay Feaster
Brad Treliving

Fletcher was home grown and from previous ownership. Feaster is an exception but one that didn't have a lot of options and took an assistant GM job before being promoted.

They like their GMs cheap, and I'm guessing Treliving said not to an extension at "you're still a rookie GM pricing". Maybe as much as a year later the two sides finally bridge the gap and get it done.

Will admit though that Brian Burke's presence does mess with this theory as they added another layer which would cost coin.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by jer_33

...It was an odd situation, and a very risky one from an organizational standpoint. The more I think about it however - I'm more convinced that it wasn't the team with cold feet, it was either Treliving putting himself in an excellent negotiating situation, or he legitimately was ready to consider other offers...

Why was it risky? Treliving is still under contract until June before his new deal starts, and he was not free during this time to talk to other teams about work opportunities without permission from the Flames. The Flames controlled this situation the whole time.


I maintain that the delay was outside perception, and that both parties had a clear view of what would happen and when it would happen all along.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Why was it risky? Treliving is still under contract until June before his new deal starts, and he was not free during this time to talk to other teams about work opportunities without permission from the Flames. The Flames controlled this situation the whole time.


I maintain that the delay was outside perception, and that both parties had a clear view of what would happen and when it would happen all along.

And he said himself they talked during the season and seems like they had a handshake deal to extend. Definitely the delay was an outside perception as both parties seemed to be on the same page the entire time.