American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS

[HotHotHeat]

I don't watch Rachel Maddow often, but The first half of her show tonight was a clinic in how to lay out a new story.

[billybob123]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Boeing apparently won't cut prices for the 737 Max so they are planning to make it difficult for Bombardier through Trump. Expect Trump to pick this up soon and start charging absurd tariffs.



http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle34837193/

I guess Boeing has to charge higher prices so they can bribe government officials for their military planes.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...ernationalnews

Boeing can't claim moral high ground about anything.

[GGG]

The subsidies that Boeing, Bobardier and Emberger receive are all pretty terrible. Such a waste of government investment.

[Texas Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

I don't watch Rachel Maddow often, but The first half of her show tonight was a clinic in how to lay out a new story.

Haha!

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Haha!

Great contribution.

[photon]

Trump was "psyched" to terminate NAFTA. He doesn't see the lives changes will effect, he just sees the news coverage he'll get when he does something.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/857775449476390913

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Wants to charge South Korea for protection AND terminate their trade deal.

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday a major conflict with North Korea is possible in the standoff over its nuclear and missile programs, but he would prefer a diplomatic outcome to the dispute.

"There is a chance that we could end up having a major, major conflict with North Korea. Absolutely," Trump told Reuters in an Oval Office interview ahead of his 100th day in office on Saturday.

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In other highlights of the 42-minute interview, Trump was cool to speaking again with Taiwan's president after an earlier telephone call with her angered China. He also said he wanted South Korea to pay the cost of the U.S. THAAD anti-missile defense system, which he estimated at $1 billion.

He said he intended to renegotiate or terminate a U.S. free trade pact with South Korea because of a deep trade deficit with Seoul.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN17U04E

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Tillerson says China told NK that they'd impose sanctions if they conducted another nuclear test.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Thursday that China threatened the North Korean government with sanctions if it undertook another nuclear weapons test.

Tillerson made his comments on Fox News ahead of a visit to the United Nations and amid rising tensions over the North Korean nuclear weapons program.
"They confirmed to us that they had requested that the regime conduct no further nuclear test," Tillerson said of the Chinese. "In fact, we were told by the Chinese that they informed the (North Korean) regime that if they did conduct further nuclear tests, China would be taking sanctions action on their own."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/27/politi...h-korea-china/

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Republicans' threat to shut down the government by holding themselves hostage seems to be over for now, the vote on Trumpcare 2 (2.1? 3?) delayed until next week.

House Republican leaders on Thursday delayed a vote on their Obamacare repeal bill until next week at the earliest, denying President Donald Trump a major legislative victory during his first 100 days in office.

Speaker Paul Ryan and his top lieutenants decided during a late-night huddle in the Capitol that they still do not have the votes to pass the stalled health-care legislation. At least 15 House Republicans remain solidly opposed to the bill, with another 20 leaning no or still undecided, according to GOP lawmakers and aides.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...l-votes-237685

[Texas Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Don't worry, I gave up on him when I read his first post. I knew he was beyond help, like 99.9999999% of Trump supporters.

You could almost say deplorable?

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

You could almost say deplorable?

Almost.

[MRCboicgy]

Stop it.

[Texas Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Speaking of FOX News, sounds like big trouble a-brewing. Imagine FOX gets shutdown

If Donna Brazil can't get CNN shut down for cheating In a Presidential Election then I don't think that will ever happen. Didn't Donna get a promotion in the Democratic Party after she lied that the email wasn't hers? No shame in the democrat game.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!

2:15 PM - 9 Feb 2016

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Campaign website, March 2016: “On day one of the Trump Administration, we will ask Congress to immediately deliver a full repeal of Obamacare.”

Campaign website, August 2016: “One of my first acts as President will be to repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare, saving another 2 million American jobs.”

Rally in Ohio, September 2016: “On my first day I’m going to ask Congress to immediately send me a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare.”

Rally in Florida, October 2016: “Together we’re going to deliver real change that once again puts Americans first. That begins with immediately repealing and replacing the disaster known as Obamacare. My first day in office, I am going to ask Congress to put a bill on my desk getting rid of this disastrous law and replacing it with reforms that expand choice, freedom, affordability.”

He also said: “It’s going to be so easy.”

Rally in Pennsylvania, November 2016: “When we win on November 8th and elect a Republican Congress, we will be able to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare. I will ask Congress to convene a special session.”

Adviser Kellyanne Conway made the same argument in an Fox News interview, November 2016: Trump “also has talked about convening a special session on January 20th after he is sworn in as President of the United States to do this very thing, to repeal and replace Obamacare

Interview with the New York Times, January 2017: Trump said an Obamacare repeal vote would happen before his inauguration and replacement wold come “very quickly or simultaneously, very shortly thereafter.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ad7506bd047c

[Texas Flames Fan]

Speaking of no shame.....

Obama's $400G Wall Street speech leaves liberal base stunned
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...e-stunned.html

What's next? A ride on the Lolita Express?

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

You could almost say deplorable?

Not bright, for sure.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Speaking of no shame.....

What's next? A ride on the Lolita Express?

How about that Flynn getting paid from Russia and Turkey, and that buffooon Trump hired him.

[DuffMan]

Mexico knows Trump.

“It seems like he’s sitting at a poker table bluffing rather than making serious decisions,” said Senator Armando Ríos Piter, a Mexican legislator. “In front of a bluffer, you always have to maintain a firm and dignified position.”

[photon]

How is Obama doing what every president before him since Carter has done a problem? If a group of people want to pay him to speak, that's fine. In case someone missed it, he's not president anymore, he can't change the laws for rich people (Trump's trying to do that enough anyway).

Has anyone ever heard one of these post-president speeches? Bush had great ones like saying "Bowling is fun" when the bowling industry paid him to speak. I'm sure there was a huge uproar about the big bowling lobby influencing politics then.

[photon]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Not bright, for sure.

A mod asked people to stop it above, please do so.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!

2:15 PM - 9 Feb 2016

And, he fails again today, for the second time.
So easy

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by photon

How is Obama doing what every president before him has done a problem? If a group of people want to pay him to speak, that's fine. In case someone missed it, he's not president anymore, he can't change the laws for rich people (Trump's trying to do that enough anyway).

Has anyone ever heard one of these post-president speeches? Bush had great ones like saying "Bowling is fun" when the bowling industry paid him to speak. I'm sure there was a huge uproar about the big bowling lobby influencing politics then.

Yeah, both the Bushes, Clinton and Carter all made money doing the public speaking gig after they were president. Heck, Bush Sr. and Clinton even toured together before. I recall Clinton was paid a couple of million even in Canada for an event.

Obama is currently one of the best orators (maybe one of the best of our generation) which is a highly valued and rewarded skill to have. Nothing wrong with him cashing in on it.