2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Toonage]

A player would sign the offer sheet to guarantee the money regardless of where he ends up. Unless they were fiercely loyal to their current team I suppose.

[Monahan For Mayor]

Originally Posted by SofaProfessor

Pastrnak's previously unknown bad attitude and poor locker room qualities would come out in the media. Everyone would pretend like they were happy he was gone. Rinse and repeat.

Lone Wolf in Boston. Pasta Bombs in Calgary. Sounds about right.

[Monahan For Mayor]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Why would McDavid want to go to Vegas?

The player has to sign the offer sheet as well

Guarantees him the money. I'm sure Edmonton will only want to offer 10M max. Signing the offer sheet guarantees him 14.2 which the oilers will still match. Now maybe he has become loyal to the team, but the city is still a dump so I'd want max dollar to stay there.

[killer_carlson]

If McDavid becomes an RFA, there will be 30 teams giving him offer sheets within the first 5 minutes they are permitted to do so.

Edmonton would match.

[sureLoss]

McKenzie says it is more likely than not that the Lightning trade Drouin for economic reasons and to fill other holes in their lineup:
https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/mck...-drouin-trade/

690 host Conor McKenna followed up on the Drouin angle of McKenzie’s comment, wondering if this was just the cap crunch finally catching up with the Lightning.

“Yeah, for the most part,” said McKenzie. “Listen, Steve Yzerman might pull a rabbit out of the hat here because of the expansion draft and he might cut some deals with Vegas to lose some contracts that give him the financial flexibility to sign Johnson, to sign Palat, to sign Drouin. Is that possible? Absolutely it’s possible. He got a good start on that at the deadline, moving the Filppula contract. And it seems like Tampa has got a never-ending supply of good young players who keep coming up from Syracuse and stepping in – Brayden Point, Yanni Gourde, and others – Adam Erne. These kids all came in in the pressure of a playoff race and performed extraordinarily well.

“So he’s got to try and get Johnson and Palat to take hometown discounts and do club-favorable deals. If he can get all of that done, then maybe there is enough money for Drouin. But at the end of the day, he’s still missing a huge component on the blueline. And how’s he going to get that. Who’s going to get it for him. Would Ondrej Palat or Tyler Johnson get him an elite defenseman? I don’t think so. Would Jonathan Drouin get him one? I think so.

“Is Jonathan Drouin likely to take a hometown discount and do a bridge deal coming out of entry level? If the answer to that question is yes, then I guess all things are possible in terms of Drouin staying. But I would suggest this: for a guy that got drafted 3rd overall, that didn’t get to play a single game as an 18-year-old, that finally when he did get up to Tampa they didn’t play him and he had the history that he had – and all of that controversy, I believe, is water under the bridge for the most part – but economically, Jonathan Drouin never caught a single break along the way.

“And I think Jonathan Drouin perceives himself the same as Nathan MacKinnon and Alexander Barkov and Seth Jones from his draft class, and other elite players. And that is, ‘I shouldn’t be taking a bridge contract coming out of entry level. I should be getting a five, six, or a seven-year deal at north of $6 million a year. That’s what players of my stature generally get.’

“And as I say, if he’s not prepared to take less than that, then I’m not sure how the Tampa Bay Lighting could possibly do that. And if they did manage to get him into the fold at whatever number – as I say, there’s still a gaping hole on the blueline that requires trading a forward to get an elite defenseman.”

[Bingo]

Drouin has only done it one year, the others from his draft class did it for three. Giving him 6M now would be insane.

Could be right ... on the way out.

[savardandjokinen]

Barkov>Mackinnon>Jones>Drouin

Mackinnon could be higher as he has been on a bad team but time will tell.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Barkov>Mackinnon>Jones>Drouin

Mackinnon could be higher as he has been on a bad team but time will tell.

Barkov/Jones > Mackinnon >>> Drouin

That's how I see it.

Probably even give the slight edge to Jones over Barkov because Barkov has had trouble staying healthy.

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Barkov/Jones > Mackinnon >>> Drouin

That's how I see it.

Probably even give the slight edge to Jones over Barkov because Barkov has had trouble staying healthy.

I was considering putting Jones higher than Mackinnon, but I feel Jones only broke out on his new team while Mackinnon has always been a good player since his rookie season.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

I was considering putting Jones higher than Mackinnon, but I feel Jones only broke out on his new team while Mackinnon has always been a good player since his rookie season.

Yeah, before this last season I put Mackinnon ahead too, but Jones busted out big time.

23+ minutes per night, 12 goals, 42 points. He was basically the #1 Dman on a top 3 or 4 team in the league at 22 years old.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Why would McDavid want to go to Vegas?

The player has to sign the offer sheet as well

When ha a player refused to sign an offer sheet? Joe Sakic signed an offer sheet even though his preference was to stick with the Avalanche. This is simply how things work as it gives the player all the leverage knowing that he's going to get his money and puts the ball in the court of the team. Remember there's no state income tax in Nevada so even if Edmonton matches he would still take home a fair bit more money in Vegas.

[bigrangy]

Jones isn't even in the same universe as Barkov, none of those guys are

[Mass_nerder]

So does that make Tampa another suitor for Hanifin?

[Erick Estrada]

I think Druin is still a very good player that may simply need a change of scenery. Yzerman has done a very good job as GM of the Lightning but I still don't understand why he didn't draft Jones instead.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Jones isn't even in the same universe as Barkov, none of those guys are

I like this player but man are some people here overrating him compared to his peers. He's probably a better overall player than Monahan but the stats don't convey that.

[stang]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

When ha a player refused to sign an offer sheet?

I am pretty sure there have been lots of times players have refused, you just wouldnt hear about it. You're telling me you believe no other team contacted Gaudreau when he was a free agent?

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by stang

I am pretty sure there have been lots of times players have refused, you just wouldnt hear about it. You're telling me you believe no other team contacted Gaudreau when he was a free agent?

Gaudreau wasn't offer sheet eligible.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by stang

I am pretty sure there have been lots of times players have refused, you just wouldnt hear about it. You're telling me you believe no other team contacted Gaudreau when he was a free agent?

There might be something to the idea that restricted players often get offers for close to what they ultimately sign for, but don't sign those offer sheets. The offer would still need to be something that more or less met the players initial on purpose high ask, or was far above the ball park figures being discussed.

Dustin Penner took the Oilers offer sheet in 2007 because they were 2 million per year above what the Ducks or anyone else were offering. Same with Vanek that one year. Even Shea Weber likely got a much better offer from Philly than what was being offered by Nashville.

So I think players will sign the offer sheet when the offer is that much to their liking. Leon Draisaitl isn't going to sign an offer sheet with the Flames on July 15th for 5.2 million a year when the Oilers are offering 4.8...But if Vegas if offering him 8 million a year for 7 years...he just might.

[Jacks]

You might have a hard time getting McNugget to sign a 7 or 8 year offer sheet but a 5 year sheet at 14 Mil would surely get it done. Makes him a UFA at 26 right in time for another 7-8 year mega deal, then a retirement deal after that. Kid could make 200+ Mil if he stays healthy.

[Toonage]

I find it almost impossible to believe that in this day and age there would be an offer sheet attempt made without being reported on.