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Old 04-24-2017, 08:14 PM   #3221
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Wouldn't yo unsay the Flames biggest need on the back end is a solid stay at home number 4? The Flames have 3 Dmen that can score 40+pts. A guy that keeps the puck out of the net should be a priority. Tanev is pretty good in that role
No kidding. A guy who can skate, move the puck and despite starting in the Dzone 55% of the time, still has positive Fenwick and Corsi numbers.
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To me, it's not that he's (Tanev's) a bad player, but I think he's only played seventy games one time. Even going back to his junior days, it appears that he's never been durable.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=105112

Much rather have the Flames re-sign Stone and give some kids a chance.
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Old 04-24-2017, 08:56 PM   #3223
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I think the Flames blueline is in trouble if the sign Stone to be the number 4 unless a kid steps up and takes the spot from him

Ideally the blueline looks like:

Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-#4
Kulak/prospect-Stone

Try and sign Stone for around 3 years $3M per to replace Engellend. If Stone wants more let him walk and circle back to Engellend. Either look for a trade for a second pair guy or sign someone like Alzner.

If the Flames can keep Stone but add a number 4 they are in very good shape on the back end next season
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I think the Flames blueline is in trouble if the sign Stone to be the number 4 unless a kid steps up and takes the spot from him

Ideally the blueline looks like:

Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-#4
Kulak/prospect-Stone

Try and sign Stone for around 3 years $3M per to replace Engellend. If Stone wants more let him walk and circle back to Engellend. Either look for a trade for a second pair guy or sign someone like Alzner.

If the Flames can keep Stone but add a number 4 they are in very good shape on the back end next season
You could be right. I guess I rate the Flames' top four a little higher with Stone than you do. Your comment's fair though.

I'm really hoping for some of defensemen for the Heat ( Kylington, Andersson, Kulak, etc.) to take a step forward during what is hopefully a good playoff run.
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:12 PM   #3225
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I think the Flames blueline is in trouble if the sign Stone to be the number 4 unless a kid steps up and takes the spot from him

Ideally the blueline looks like:

Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-#4
Kulak/prospect-Stone

Try and sign Stone for around 3 years $3M per to replace Engellend. If Stone wants more let him walk and circle back to Engellend. Either look for a trade for a second pair guy or sign someone like Alzner.

If the Flames can keep Stone but add a number 4 they are in very good shape on the back end next season
You should either keep Stone as your number 4 or not sign him at all, because paying a bottom pairing guy 3m is a huge mistake.
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To me, it's not that he's (Tanev's) a bad player, but I think he's only played seventy games one time. Even going back to his junior days, it appears that he's never been durable.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=105112

Much rather have the Flames re-sign Stone and give some kids a chance.
This.

stone + keeping first >>>> trading for Tanev

And Canucks would want kings ransom for Tanev
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:16 PM   #3227
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Thoughts on trading Sam Bennett for Noah Hanifin? Carolina is in the enviable position of having a lot of young blueliners and were rumored to be willing to trade him for someone like William Nylander. A year ago Bennett had more value than Nylander, but maybe not now? Would the Flames have to add? Hanifin also had a slightly down year I believe, but I didn't follow Carolina in the slightest this year, so I'm not sure about that.
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:18 PM   #3228
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Do we need Hanifin more than Bennett? We've got a good top 3, and I wouldn't trade Bennett for a #4.
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Do we need Hanifin more than Bennett? We've got a good top 3, and I wouldn't trade Bennett for a #4.
I don't think Carolina offers Hanifin 1-1 in that scenario.
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You should either keep Stone as your number 4 or not sign him at all, because paying a bottom pairing guy 3m is a huge mistake.
$3mil is steep for bottom pairing. Time to see Rasmus in the NHL and use the 1st round pick on Callen Foote (RHD) or Kristian Vesalainen or Kole Lind or Kailer Yamamoto. Maybe Matthew Strome is available.
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:22 PM   #3231
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i want to keep Bennett and ultimately team him with Tkachuk to be one of the most difficult pairs to play against. They both have high skill levels and play with a physical edge. Ferland or Lazar could be a long term RW on that line.
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1. Whether Hans fans are fed up with him really has nothing to do with whether he's available
2. HFBoards is trash and using it to support any point you're trying to make only weakens your argument
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1. Whether Hans fans are fed up with him really has nothing to do with whether he's available
2. HFBoards is trash and using it to support any point you're trying to make only weakens your argument
You could say the same for any community, online or otherwise. There is trash everywhere, you just have to be smart enough to realize who is worth listening to.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:25 AM   #3234
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thoughts on trading sam bennett for noah hanifin?
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Thoughts on trading Sam Bennett for Noah Hanifin?
Very interesting deal. I think both are on the verge of breaking out. Canes fans are falling out of favor with Hanifin with the emergence of Pesce and Slavin, just like Flames fans are souring on Bennett due to Tkachuk's breakout. I think Bennett is more important to the Flames' future, but this is one of the very few Bennett trades that wouldn't make me upset.

Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamilton
Kylington/Kulak/?-Stone
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I'd be ecstatic if we could get Hanifin for Bennett, but I don't see why the Canes would do that personally when they could probably get a more established C with just as high of an upside for Hanifin.
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:48 AM   #3237
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It's easier to get d-men than it is to get centres.

Trading Bennett would be stupid.
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:48 AM   #3238
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If Hanafin is available you know the greasers are going to be all over that.
Probably try to package Ryan Nothing-Happens, eat some salary and send some draft picks.
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:58 PM   #3239
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Team would improve this team immensely. He is one of the best pure defensive dmen in the league. He is leaps and bounds ahead of Stone. However his injury history is a huge red flag.

If I'm trading our first I'm calling Philly. They have a slough of young dmen and mite just let Gudas go for the right offer. If we could bring in Gudas as our number 4 that would be wicked.

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Team would improve this team imensily.
Couldn't immensely agree more.
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