[News] New Arena - Plan B - Victoria Park

[RM14]

Looking forward to seeing the overall vision for the neighborhood. Cowboys should look at expansion or adding a hotel in that empty space facing Olympic way.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by RM14

Looking forward to seeing the overall vision for the neighborhood. Cowboys should look at expansion or adding a hotel in that empty space facing Olympic way.

Agreed. For an area so close to downtown it is sort of a wasteland since they bulldozed all the housing in there. It is an area where some redevelopment due to a new arena along with the Stampede and new tourist attractions in the East Village and the expansion of Fort Calgary really makes a lot of sense.

[Alberta_Beef]

Has any new information come out yet today? Is it just the usual bitching and moaning?

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by rotten42

well...I could say the same for that really pretty Library we are paying for.

Huh? This is one of the most insane arguments that gets thrown around...not sure what else to say if you can't see the value a library brings to our society compared to an entertainment venue. It's an important resource that can help move the needle of success for a significant portion of the population. And it's available to the entire population.

[nik-]

It also won't have 18000 customers buying tickets and a TV deal.

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by RM14

Looking forward to seeing the overall vision for the neighborhood. Cowboys should look at expansion or adding a hotel in that empty space facing Olympic way.

Or better yet, sell the property to someone with a bit of taste.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Huh? This is one of the most insane arguments that gets thrown around...not sure what else to say if you can't see the value a library brings to our society compared to an entertainment venue. It's an important resource that can help move the needle of success for a significant portion of the population. And it's available to the entire population.

Isn't reading just another form of entertainment? I won't argue that libraries are not important, but they aren't exactly used for education unless they are located in a school these days. They are mostly used for reading (entertainment), computers/internet (entertainment) and DVDs (entertainment). Which essentially makes it an entertainment venue.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Isn't reading just another form of entertainment? I won't argue that libraries are not important, but they aren't exactly used for education unless they are located in a school these days. They are mostly used for reading (entertainment), computers/internet (entertainment) and DVDs (entertainment). Which essentially makes it an entertainment venue.

Oh wow.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

Oh wow.

I'm not wrong. It's a form of entertainment and all entertainment is vital in helping reduce stress.

[DiracSpike]

I agree that libraries are important. As someone that believes that, I'd rather see the money spent on smaller, cheaper, and therefore more numerous library branches in the communities that actually need them. Not a gleaming over-built palace in an area that has next to zero kids.

[REDVAN]

If you build it, they will come

[RM14]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Or better yet, sell the property to someone with a bit of taste.

Agreed. I would prefer something else. Maybe the Stampede owns the lot still and can do something on their own.

[Dr. Pepper]

Presentation happening right now in city council: First bit of news -

Land parcel city owns that Saddledome sits on: 14.58 Acres
Land that Plan B arena would go on: 7.41 Acres

"Land program imagined as an exchange between the two owners"

[flamingreen]

Originally Posted by DiracSpike

I agree that libraries are important. As someone that believes that, I'd rather see the money spent on smaller, cheaper, and therefore more numerous library branches in the communities that actually need them. Not a gleaming over-built palace in an area that has next to zero kids.

Huh?

[Dr. Pepper]

Next Bit: Not only could an arena fit on the Victoria Park parcel, more could fit too, says admin. 782,000 sq feet of development possible

[Dr. Pepper]

No creosote concerns on Victoria Park site.



The master plan for Victoria Park is moving fast says Brown. CMLC looking at considerable build out. Shows this image.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Isn't reading just another form of entertainment? I won't argue that libraries are not important, but they aren't exactly used for education unless they are located in a school these days. They are mostly used for reading (entertainment), computers/internet (entertainment) and DVDs (entertainment). Which essentially makes it an entertainment venue.

Maybe for you, but for some, a library is the only way they can access the internet or other valuable learning material, and it's available regardless of income.

[RM14]

anyone worried about parking at CalgaryNext should have the same concerns with this master plan.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by CorbeauNoir

The dome is way oversized for figure skating/short track though. I imagine they'd do something similar to what Vancouver did with a bunch of their facilities, build something new to host the events and then after the games repurpose the building into something else.

Using the Saddledome for figure skating and short track would be doing what Vancouver did by using their old NHL arena.

It would also be doing what Calgary did by using the Saddledome for figure skating.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Maybe for you, but for some, a library is the only way they can access the internet or other valuable learning material, and it's available regardless of income.

If you note, I made a point to say I wasn't saying they were not important. I also said in a subsequent post that I think all forms of entertainment are important.