[PGT] Calgary plays Game 2 and loses by a score of 3-2 in regulation

[FlatLandFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Some clarification on the disallowed goal from a Francis article..



http://www.calgarysun.com/2017/04/16...roversial-call

yet they told Gully the call on the no goal came from T.O. wtf!
Tin foil hat firmly on here cause that is not miscommunication between Gully and the ref that sounds like we're making this call irreversible so suck it up

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Some clarification on the disallowed goal from a Francis article..



http://www.calgarysun.com/2017/04/16...roversial-call

OK, but if that is their call while was it not waved off immediately? Why review anything if the call is goaltender interference and not reviewable?
If they initially called goaltender interference then that should be the end of it.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Some clarification on the disallowed goal from a Francis article..



http://www.calgarysun.com/2017/04/16...roversial-call

Not a good enough explanation.

Looked like any interference happened after it was already in the net. And if the Crosby mid air deflection goal told us anything, it's that you can make contact with the goalie, as long as the puck went in (even) 1/34 of a second before it.

A Flames skate being behind the goalie doesn't seem like adequate interference. He still looked able to be outstretched and make a stop and it didn't appear to be the thing that impeded him. He just lost track and it slipped through. Like a said at the time, messy but a goal. Much like the one we saw in Calgary vs the Kings. Except no pad was physically forced in like in this instance.

Inconsistencies...inconsistencies...........

What's a goal? What's a penalty (and when)? They zig then they zag, and just leave us fans in the dark.

[Aeneas]

Watched the third period again today. I am perplexed. I tried to be objective.

In the first 15 minutes I felt the referees let go 9 infractions they could have called. 6 by the Ducks and 3 by the Flames. Then those two penalties on Calgary?

Kesler delivered 3 cross checks harder than Brodies in the third alone. Maybe they were not penalties because the Flame didn't fling himself forward in an embarrassing sprawl.

I felt confident watching the third last night. Calgary was getting very good scoring chances, and I saw the refs were clearly letting everything go...and then they didn't.

Brouwer and hamilton both had some nice hits last night I like that.

Monahan I do not understand. He had two great opportunities to hit Kesler and he veered away instead of making any contact. Looks intimidated. All the crap Kesler is doing to him, and he won't even make a simple bodycheck or a rub out on the boards?

Gaudreau...shoot it man.

Glad to see Backlund have a very good game. I think that bodes well for the next two games.

More Ferland please!

Did anyone else think that Manson turned down Engelland's offer to go? Looked that way to me.

[868904]

Originally Posted by New Era

Someone's going to get fired over that faux pas. I wouldn't be surprised to see whoever "Mr. Flame" is going to get quietly dismissed in the next couple of weeks.

I'd be disappointed if someone got fired over that. First off, they are right, secondly, it's a free country and you are allowed to express your opinion. The mic shouldn't have been on.

[EldrickOnIce]

OK. Do I have this straight?
You can call for a review if you think there was goaltender interference.
You can't call a review if goaltender interference was called and you believe he was not interfered with?

[Flamenfame]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

OK, but if that is their call while was it not waved off immediately? Why review anything if the call is goaltender interference and not reviewable?
If they initially called goaltender interference then that should be the end of it.

The coach's challenge is just brutal for the game and allows the NHL more game management as we see. The calls last night are infuriating when the Ducks were getting away with the same calls . I am curious to the amount of calls teams from Canada are getting compared to American teams because watching a lot games so far this playoffs it seems pretty one sided to me.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Exceptional? Your standards must be pretty low. I would call exceptional something to the effect of being a standout player every single shift in all facets off the game. He's 6'3 and 200lbs. He doesn't have to run people through the boards but he can certainly use his frame and finish the odd check when it presents itself instead of playing as small as Guadreau in most instances.

As it stands now, his "excellent zone play" has the Flames in an 0-2 hole. He's also getting dominated in the faceoff circle. It's not all on him but saying that's enough just doesn't cut it in the playoffs. Your top Center needs to give you a heck of a lot more than that. Especially for 6.5M per year.

I'm sorry but I just don't agree with this take on Monahan at all. I think he's been far and away their best player this playoffs. He's skating hard, being physical, making smart plays with the puck, and has scored a huge goal in both games. What more do you want? I've been thoroughly impressed by Monahan the last two games. I would say Monahan has certainly been exceptional so far.

[Southside]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

My concern is that the Flames try to compensate in the off-season by signing and trading for more players like Brouwer, who has probably been the worst Flames forward these playoffs.

I think Tre should take July 1 off this year. Trying to swing some trades and promote from within. He has proven to be great at trades and negotiations. July 1, not so much.

Hathaway, Lazar, Andersson and Jankowski are ready to go.

[JBR]

Series will definitely go back tied 2-2.

On the plus side, those who've labelled the Flames losers, not trying, useless, scared, overpaid, etc. and have declared their series over, "I'm out" etc.... Please leave the forum until next year. Following the Jekyll and Hyde crowd is exhausting, you're making fools of yourselves and I'm glad we're not relying on you as part of a team that needs guts to overcome.

They're working their bags off, it's playoff hockey, adversity happens and Go Flames Go!

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by sun

lol no it wasn't. I assume anyone who shares this opinion hasn't used GC/illegal streams. Sometimes you hear chatter during breaks in the play. Sometimes there are no commercials and you hear them laughing at the human bowling or whatever. Usually there aren't too many "####in idiot" comments.

Guys in the booth obviously didn't realize the feed was still going through the tubes of the ol internet.

seems more like a slow news day story to me and am surprised why anyone cares so much about personal opinions the announcing team might have about players and or the plays of the game... off the air, during what they thought was a commercial break

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Sun came up today. Weird.

[djsFlames]

Sure hope these official supervisors have some sort of actual role here and make use of it.

I don't expect some phantom Ducks calls in Calgary next game, but I expect a consistent definition of a penalty for 60 minutes, and not a sudden change in that at the most crucial points of the game.

[cannon7]

I don't want the refs from last night anywhere near this team for the rest of the playoffs. I am almost guaranteed not to get my way.

I don't know what the NHL has against Canadian teams in the playoffs. Does not seem to be in their best interest to usher the Canadian teams out. Nobodoy gives a damn about a San Jose vs. Pittsburgh final. San Jose and Anaheim aren't even filing their buildings...

[Toonage]

Reminds me a little of 2007. Lost the first 2 to Detroit, came home, tied the series. Of course thats where I'd like to see this comparison end.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

What's a goal? What's a penalty (and when)? They zig then they zag, and just leave us fans in the dark.

So far, Anaheim seems good for one "it was in" moment per playoff whenever we get them in a series.

God I hate that ####ing team, bigger horseshoes up their asses than the Oilers.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Reminds me a little of 2007. Lost the first 2 to Detroit, came home, tied the series. Of course thats where I'd like to see this comparison end.

Same thing happened in our Chicago series in 09.

[kevman]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Flames had a lot of unscreened, perimeter shots while the ducks forced Elliott to make a ton of high quality saves.

I dont think the flames outplayed Anaheim last night.

I didn't see it that way. Neither did the shot charts apparently.

https://embed.naturalstattrick.com/h...017&game=30172

Looks pretty even to me. If anything the Ducks had more perimeter shots.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Sun came up today. Weird.

I haven't been happy reading a lot of the over the top negative stuff, but playoffs are a really heated time for passionate Canadian hockey fans, more news at 11.

These sarcastic "rational perspective" posts are just as annoying when they don't actually offer perspective and seek only to antagonize fans who are already pissed off.

So annoying. Especially when it's a poster who apparently only returned to CP to let Flames fans know how he feels about the way they cheer for the team.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

That lucky bounce off Bouma's skate for the game winner was all experience.

Doing absolutely nothing and letting your opponent score on a double minor was also all experience. Goalie also has enough extortions to know when to get interfered with.