04-10-2017, 10:02 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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View from Vegas..series odds
Nothing overly surprising here though the Leafs are getting big odds...as they should. Kind of odd the Wild are as big favorites as they are.
Rangers Series Prices +115
Canadiens Series Prices-135
Bruins Series Prices -180
Senators Series Prices +160
Blue Jackets Series Prices +150
Penguins Series Prices -170
Blues Series Prices +122
Wild Series Prices -142
Sharks Series Prices +115
Oilers Series Prices -135
Maple Leafs Series Prices +320
Capitals Series Prices -380
Predators Series Prices +165
Blackhawks Series Prices -190
Flames Series Prices +145
Ducks Series Prices -165
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04-10-2017, 10:13 PM
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Franchise Player
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Odds to win the Cup-
Chicago Blackhawks+400
Washington Capitals+450
Pittsburgh Penguins+800
Minnesota Wild+800
Columbus Blue Jackets+1000
Montreal Canadiens+1400
New York Rangers+1400
San Jose Sharks+1400
Anaheim Ducks+1400
Edmonton Oilers+1600
Calgary Flames+2500
Nashville Predators+2500
Toronto Maple Leafs+2500
Boston Bruins+2500
Ottawa Senators+2800
St. Louis Blues+3300
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04-10-2017, 10:14 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Vegas really hates the Blues. Wow
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04-10-2017, 10:15 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Nothing overly surprising here though the Leafs are getting big odds...as they should. Kind of odd the Wild are as big favorites as they are.
Rangers Series Prices +115
Canadiens Series Prices-135
Bruins Series Prices -180
Senators Series Prices +160
Blue Jackets Series Prices +150
Penguins Series Prices -170
Blues Series Prices +122
Wild Series Prices -142
Sharks Series Prices +115
Oilers Series Prices -135
Maple Leafs Series Prices +320
Capitals Series Prices -380
Predators Series Prices +165
Blackhawks Series Prices -190
Flames Series Prices +145
Ducks Series Prices -165
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Seen these a lot but have no idea what they mean.
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04-10-2017, 10:16 PM
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Help, save, whatever.
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This is from Oddssharks:
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Anaheim Ducks +1400: You can pencil the Ducks into the next round. They’ll take on a Flames team in Round 1 that they haven’t lost to in Anaheim in 27 straight games. Additionally, the Quackers come into the dance warmed up and limber. They haven’t lost a game in regulation since early March and were victorious in eight of their final 10 games – including two wins over the Flames.
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Toronto Maple Leafs +2500: This one’s easy, they’re playing the Capitals. If the Maple Leafs don’t get swept, it will be a massive success for the franchise but knowing them, they’ll make it a series and crush their fans’ hearts when they blow it in dramatic fashion.
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OUCH!
http://www.oddsshark.com/nhl/stanley-cup-futures
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04-10-2017, 10:27 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Par
Seen these a lot but have no idea what they mean.
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Its called the moneyline.
The numbers beside the teams indicate one of two things.
For example....
Flames Series Prices +145
Ducks Series Prices -165
In this case, if you placed $100 on the Flames to win the series and they did, you would collect $145.
Conversely, if you want to win $100 on the Ducks, you would need to wager $165.
It just takes the "odds" out of the equation/
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04-10-2017, 10:48 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Its called the moneyline.
The numbers beside the teams indicate one of two things.
For example....
Flames Series Prices +145
Ducks Series Prices -165
In this case, if you placed $100 on the Flames to win the series and they did, you would collect $145.
Conversely, if you want to win $100 on the Ducks, you would need to wager $165.
It just takes the "odds" out of the equation/
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This makes no sense to me. Good thing I don't gamble.
Based on what you're saying.. And the fact that the Ducks are favored vs the Flames.
If I bet 100 on the Flames and they win.. I get 145 back for a gain of 45.
If I bet 165 on the Ducks and they win I get back 265 for a gain of 100.
The gains don't seem to make it worthwhile to bet on the Flames at all as underdogs. I'd rather bet on the favorite?
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04-10-2017, 10:59 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammertime
This makes no sense to me. Good thing I don't gamble.
Based on what you're saying.. And the fact that the Ducks are favored vs the Flames.
If I bet 100 on the Flames and they win.. I get 145 back for a gain of 45.
If I bet 165 on the Ducks and they win I get back 265 for a gain of 100.
The gains don't seem to make it worthwhile to bet on the Flames at all as underdogs. I'd rather bet on the favorite?
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you need to risk more on the ducks to win 100, than you would the Flames.
This explains it well..
https://www.thoughtco.com/sports-bet...-lines-3116852
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04-10-2017, 11:01 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammertime
This makes no sense to me. Good thing I don't gamble.
Based on what you're saying.. And the fact that the Ducks are favored vs the Flames.
If I bet 100 on the Flames and they win.. I get 145 back for a gain of 45.
If I bet 165 on the Ducks and they win I get back 265 for a gain of 100.
The gains don't seem to make it worthwhile to bet on the Flames at all as underdogs. I'd rather bet on the favorite?
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The way i read it f you bet 100 on the flames your ahead 145 if they win. If you bet 165 on the Ducks your ahead 100 if they win.
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04-10-2017, 11:15 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
The way i read it f you bet 100 on the flames your ahead 145 if they win. If you bet 165 on the Ducks your ahead 100 if they win.
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A minus sign means you need to bet that amount to win $100. So the Ducks for example are -165, meaning if you risk $165 of your money to win $100. So if the Ducks win the series, the bookie pays you $100. If the Flames win the series, you pay your bookie $165.
Conversely, a plus sign means betting $100 wins that amount. So the Flames at +145 means that you are risking $100 to win $145. If the Flames win the series, your bookie pays you $145, but if the Ducks win you pay your bookie $100.
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04-10-2017, 11:46 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RockOnRoberts
A minus sign means you need to bet that amount to win $100. So the Ducks for example are -165, meaning if you risk $165 of your money to win $100. So if the Ducks win the series, the bookie pays you $100. If the Flames win the series, you pay your bookie $165.
Conversely, a plus sign means betting $100 wins that amount. So the Flames at +145 means that you are risking $100 to win $145. If the Flames win the series, your bookie pays you $145, but if the Ducks win you pay your bookie $100.
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I think that's what I said.
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04-10-2017, 11:56 PM
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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I just put $100 on Anaheim for game 1. Figure if the Ponda curse continues I at least get something out of it, and if I lose then that means the Flames can actually win a game in Anaheim and I don't care about the money. Win/win
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04-11-2017, 07:13 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammertime
This makes no sense to me. Good thing I don't gamble.
Based on what you're saying.. And the fact that the Ducks are favored vs the Flames.
If I bet 100 on the Flames and they win.. I get 145 back for a gain of 45.
If I bet 165 on the Ducks and they win I get back 265 for a gain of 100.
The gains don't seem to make it worthwhile to bet on the Flames at all as underdogs. I'd rather bet on the favorite?
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It's confusing, initially.
So you have decided to bet on the series. You choose either Calgary or Anaheim to win.
1. Choose Calgary. At those numbers it costs you 100 with a chance to win back 145. So you are either down 100 or up 145. So a $245 difference between winning and losing, risking $100.
2. Choose Anaheim. At those numbers it costs you $165 with a chance to win back 100. So you are either down 165 or up 100.So a $265 difference between winning and losing, but you have to risk $165 instead of $100, for an extra potential $20 payout.
You could convert the money line to the same initial bet. Can't be hard math/formula, but not sure exactly how to.
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04-11-2017, 07:27 AM
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Franchise Player
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Flames are 2.5-1 underdogs
The bookies think the Flames would win one out of every 2.5 series (approx)
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04-11-2017, 07:37 AM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammertime
This makes no sense to me. Good thing I don't gamble.
Based on what you're saying.. And the fact that the Ducks are favored vs the Flames.
If I bet 100 on the Flames and they win.. I get 145 back for a gain of 145.
If I bet 165 on the Ducks and they win I get back 265 for a gain of 100.
The gains don't seem to make it worthwhile to bet on the Flames at all as underdogs. I'd rather bet on the favorite?
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I thought about this the same way as you and it didn't make any sense. Then I realized that with a win while betting for the Flames, you get back your original 100+ an extra 145.
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04-11-2017, 09:00 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
1. Choose Calgary. At those numbers it costs you 100 with a chance to win back 145. So you are either down 100 or up 145.
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You are down 100 or up 45, or 145?
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04-11-2017, 09:05 AM
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Franchise Player
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+145 means for every hundred bet, you WIN $145.
You get a total of $245 back from the $100 bet.
Does anyone seriously think betting $100 of the Flames would return a $45 profit!
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04-11-2017, 09:12 AM
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Franchise Player
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I hate garbage money lines.
I switch to Decimal points.
+145 = 2.45
-165 = 1.65
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04-11-2017, 09:20 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Flames are going to win Game 1
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04-11-2017, 09:41 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
You are down 100 or up 45, or 145?
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You would give the book $100 for the bet, and if the Flames win you would get $245 back. Your original $100 plus $145.
For the Ducks, you would give the book $165 and if the Ducks win you get $265 back. Your original $165 plus $100.
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