Explosion kills 11 in St. Petersburg

[Regulator75]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/03/europe...ion/index.html

Eleven people were killed in a blast on the St. Petersburg metro on Monday, the Russian health ministry said, in what authorities described as a terrorist attack.

An explosion tore through a train as it was traveling between two stations in Russia's second-biggest city, injuring dozens more.
A second device was found and defused at another station, Russia's Anti-terrorist Committee said. No group has so far claimed responsibility for the attack, which led to the shutdown of the entire metro system in St. Petersburg.

[CroFlames]

Dang. I wonder what group is responsible.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Dang. I wonder what group is responsible.

The Russian intelligence service?

[FlamesAddiction]

If one of the 11 killed was a journalist of political adversary of Putin, then it was probably an inside job.

But Russia has a lot of separatists and religious fanatics (and not just Muslims).

[nik-]

It annoys me that the first thought I had was "What convenient timing" rather than just having a humane first response.

[CaptainCrunch]

I would think that they're looking at one of the major three groups

ISIL
Ukrainians
Chechnya

If its number 2 then the Russian's are going to blame NATO.

If its 1 they're going to up their campaign in Syria

If its 3 it'll be bad.

[FurnaceFace]

Option 4 - which one of the above 3 is it in their best interests to pin it on. Go with that

[blankall]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Dang. I wonder what group is responsible.

Russia's expansionist policies have created a lot of enemies. Not to mention the internal policies that repress opposition. Supporting Assad and attacking both Kurdish and Turkish forces is likely to create enemies too. They've also invaded the Ukraine, Georgia, and several other Caucus counties.

History has shown it's probably Chechnyans, but it could be any number of groups, including home grown far right groups.

[CaptainCrunch]

Right now today, the Ukraine at least in my opinion.

ISIL is irrelevant, they're going to keep bombing the crap out of that part of the world no matter what.

[White Out 403]

Ukrainian false flag attack is my guess.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I would think that they're looking at one of the major three groups

ISIL
Ukrainians
Chechnya

If its number 2 then the Russian's are going to blame NATO.

If its 1 they're going to up their campaign in Syria

If its 3 it'll be bad.

It doesn't matter who it was. They will blame whoever they want to meet the needs of whatever pretense they are looking to fill at the moment. You can't trust anything the Russians say.

[Ozy_Flame]

4th option - anti-Putin activists in response to opposing political parties assassinations.

5 - FSB on a false flag, blamed on ISIS or radicals to galvanize support from Trump.

Least likely of the currently listed items though.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

The Russian intelligence service?

They did this last time during a bunch of unrest. FSB, at the time, planted a bunch of bombs all over Moscow in apartments and got caught doing it.

Here is the CBC article on the FSB involvement in the last set of apartment bombings. These events led to Putin's rise to power.

March 13, 2000
Russian journalist, Pavel Voloshin, publishes an article in the Novaya Gazeta newspaper revealing an exclusive interview with a soldier named Aleksei Pinyaev. Private Pinyaev’s military unit had been posted to Ryazan in the fall of 1999 and assigned to guard an arms depot located on the military base. Curious, Pinyaev and a comrade looked inside the warehouse and instead of finding weapons, found fifty kilogram sacks marked sugar. They used some it for their tea but tasted something so repugnant that out of fear for their health they had a specialist test it to make sure they hadn’t been poisoned. The test results revealed the substance was hexogen.

Former New York Times journalist David Satter who would later interview Pavel Voloshin would write, “The additional evidence (obtained from Pinyaev) appeared to increase the likelihood that the FSB had planned to blow up the building at 14/16 Novoselov Street. For the first time it was alleged... that at the time of the Ryazan ‘exercise’ a large quantity of hexogen was being kept under guard in a warehouse on a military base twenty miles from Ryazan in sackcloth bags that were labelled ‘sugar’.”

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/blog/septemb...bings-timeline

I would not be surprised since they had a lot of anti-corruption protests happening right before this happened.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I would think that they're looking at one of the major three groups

ISIL
Ukrainians
Chechnya

If its number 2 then the Russian's are going to blame NATO.

If its 1 they're going to up their campaign in Syria

If its 3 it'll be bad.

It will be bad for the Chechens, but the rest of us will be OK.

[FlamesAddiction]

The current head of the Chechnya Republic is a pal and huge supporter of Putin. I doubt Putin would go in there balls to the walls. There might end up being a purge or something, but I doubt they would go to war over it.

If it was a Chechen, it will somehow be blamed on Ukraine, Georgia, or some dissident Russian republic other than Chechnya. Kind of like the time a bunch of Egyptians and Saudis attacked the U.S. and somehow Iraq was invaded because of it.