[PGT] Kings 4 - Flames 1 - No Clinch

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dammage79

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/ar...layoff-results

Kind of paints the picture I'm talking about. It's no guarantee either way, but cold teams get ousted in the 1St round far more often than not. There are of course outliers like the Hawks, but the article puts some perspective into this.

That being said. The Flames can right the ship in their remaining games.

This article is talking about actual cold streaks like 2-8

Calgary is 6-4 in their last 10 .666 winning percentage this article would consider them to be on a hot streak FYI

Calgary is also the best team in the Pacific since November


SJ is 3-7
Minny is 1-7-2

Those teams are "cold"

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by dino7c

This article is talking about actual cold streaks like 2-8

Calgary is 6-4 in their last 10 .666 winning percentage this article would consider them to be on a hot streak FYI

Calgary is also the best team in the Pacific since November


SJ is 3-7
Minny is 1-7-2

Those teams are "cold"

And the bulk of their loses came in the last five games. The Flames have what? 4 games remaining and no easy outs to go? The King's appear content to give the Flames lots to think about, the Ducks, well we will leave that one alone because...

if...IF the Flames are entering a cold snap, it's the worst time possible.

[dino7c]

and I don't think there is one team that would rather play Calgary than the Wild right now....anyway I am out

don't take the loss too hard guys, remember November? If I went back and time and told you the Flames had an 11 point lead on 9th with 5 games left just think how happy you would have been

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by dammage79

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/ar...layoff-results

Kind of paints the picture I'm talking about. It's no guarantee either way, but cold teams get ousted in the 1St round far more often than not. There are of course outliers like the Hawks, but the article puts some perspective into this.

That being said. The Flames can right the ship in their remaining games.

Did you read what you posted?

Many of the league’s hottest teams saw no correlation between their finishes and playoff success. An overwhelming number of them got knocked out as early as Round 1.

It’s a mixed bag with the coldest teams. Many of them rallied to go on decent playoff runs. Several of them reached the final.

Conclusion : it makes no difference as long as you get there.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

No ossue with this game. They plaued bad but!!!! I think it set a tone physically that the fapmes have been missing for years.

They have shown the can ply hockey for some time now but it has been years since thwy have shown the can't be pushed around.

Originally Posted by Karl

I have an issue with your spelling.

They definitely weren't the Fapmes tonight.

Hopefully the Fapmes will be back on friday.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Karl

I have an issue with your spelling.

Take that up with Red arrow Kustom Kolsh.


Also

[Patek23]

A little surprised from some of the reactions. You can't win them all. Just won two in row and LA is a team trying to do anything they can to give themselves a chance. Felt like the boys had the right attitude and I'm glad that we showed we won't cower away from the tough stuff. The game got away from us and we will move onto the next one like the good team we are, LA can enjoy their win tonight but they still aren't making the playoffs. An easy game to bounce back from, reoragnize and get the clinch on Friday against a spiralling Sharks team.

[combustiblefuel]

MOD EDIT: Video and lyrics are too much. Let's stick to hockey talk, please.

[EldrickOnIce]

^ you need some sleep, bro.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by Mike F

Not changing up the PP is complete incompetence by the coaching staff at this point; like, gross dereliction of duty.

The Flames have scored 9 times on their last 62 PPs, for a whopping 14.5%, good for 27th in the league.

Make a f****ng adjustment!

Earlier in the season, we saw what kind of success they could have when they changed things up and did things the opposition weren't expecting. Perhaps they are saving that for the playoffs so teams don't have a chance to adjust.

That, or playing every second day is limiting their practice time in order to implement changes.

Either way, it's pretty clear this PP doesn't deal well with PK that pressure the puck carrier.

Game was a snoozer after the first period. I actually missed the third because I fell asleep in the second intermission. :/

[Rick M.]

Flames did a great job of motivating the Kings to play for pride, then forgot to play hockey themselves.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Yup, hopefully Flames learned not to get sucked into those types of games. They aren't built to grind out hockey games. You'd think GG would know better.

[EVERLAST]

W

Originally Posted by Rick M.

Flames did a great job of motivating the Kings to play for pride, then forgot to play hockey themselves.

Was just thinking about this.
Sometimes a distraction is good but when your wondering who other than Tkachuk is going to get cheap shorted your game suffers.

Allot of the things this flames team does are between the ears kind of stuff.

We.know we have a great hockey team so let's stick to hockey and if stuff escalates during the game then Glen has to have a plan.

Miserable power play cost us the game lAst night.
Not enough shots, no screens and Bishop wasn't challenged at all.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by dammage79

And the bulk of their loses came in the last five games. The Flames have what? 4 games remaining and no easy outs to go? The King's appear content to give the Flames lots to think about, the Ducks, well we will leave that one alone because...

if...IF the Flames are entering a cold snap, it's the worst time possible.

Yes, we are 2-3 in our last five. Two of those losses also came when we were missing top six forwards.

As far as the Kings giving us "lots to think about", that is, quite frankly, bunk. Both teams played like garbage in the first 40 last night as neither was terribly interested in the hockey. That's just not going to happen in the playoffs. We gave up two in the third because we were pressing and made mistakes. It happens, but it also happened to the Kings against us.

Believe it or not, we were unlikely to beat the Kings all three games here in the Dome.

[Erick Estrada]

My concerns are that they were clearly intimidated by the Kings. Rather than go out and play their game they played the game with an eye on the Kings and what they may do for retribution. Almost like they were in a reactionary shell which of course meant they got caught up in playing a Darryl Sutter style game and when you play that Sutter style and Darryl is the coach on the opposing bench you are going to lose most of the time. Kind of worries me if they have to face a team in the playoffs like the Ducks who could try to intimidate them physically as it seems like a strategy that may work against the Flames to take them off their game.

My next concern is the powerplay. Yes they got three against a really bad Avalanche team but it's been terrible for months now and worse it's becoming a momentum killer for the team. It's really time for Versteeg and Brodie to be taken off the first unit as teams have figured out that there's no threat of a point shot making it easy for them to clog up the underneath stuff. I don't think you can win a playoff series with a powerplay this bad.

Third concern is that I feel the team is slowly getting away from the strong team game that resulted in the long winning streak. We are starting to see the poor passing and freelancing from the beginning of the season creep back into the game. The coaching staff needs to reign that in quickly. Since the winning streak ended the team is 4-4 and they need to be playing better than .500 hockey going into the playoffs.

[Resolute 14]

Umm, in what way were they intimidated? Seriously. You're looking at the final score and extrapolating. Two thirds of the way through the second, the shots were something like 16-11. Neither team was really intimidating or outplaying the other.

We did struggle on our passing, no doubt about that. But the real problem the Kings caused for us was they trapped like mad, and trapped very effectively. Even at 0-1, they were stacking four on the blue line and it just continued all night. It worked, so good for them.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

W

Was just thinking about this.
Sometimes a distraction is good but when your wondering who other than Tkachuk is going to get cheap shorted your game suffers.

Allot of the things this flames team does are between the ears kind of stuff.

We.know we have a great hockey team so let's stick to hockey and if stuff escalates during the game then Glen has to have a plan.

Miserable power play cost us the game lAst night.
Not enough shots, no screens and Bishop wasn't challenged at all.

Yeah, the Kings were dead in the water dreaming of golf, then the Flames baited them into a final spasm of effort.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Umm, in what way were they intimidated? Seriously. You're looking at the final score and extrapolating. Two thirds of the way through the second, the shots were something like 16-11. Neither team was really intimidating or outplaying the other.

We did struggle on our passing, no doubt about that. But the real problem the Kings caused for us was they trapped like mad, and trapped very effectively. Even at 0-1, they were stacking four on the blue line and it just continued all night. It worked, so good for them.

They were intimidated in that they played the game worried about what the Kings were going to do rather than just go out and play their style of game. The Kings really didn't do anything out of the ordinary playing a typical Kings game and that's not a style that suits the Flames nearly as well as evident by the outcome.

I think the Flames will have to get used to seeing trapping in the playoffs as that Bruins loss that ended the streak kind of created the blueprint of how to shut down the Flames in that you keep four guys back with active sticks to beak up the passing. Flames couldn't get a thing going in that game much like last night.

[Freddy]

Captain Obvious would say that the PP needs to be more productive.

GG's more defensively responsible system is great in close 1 goal games, but when the Flames get down by more than 1 in the second half of games they seem to really struggle.

There was 1 PP last night where Bennett was out there with the 1st PP unit in front of the net and I couldn't help thinking that combo is way better than Brouwer and maybe Ferland too. Ferland looks dangerous anytime he gets a shot attempt off, so I'd be ok with him on the PP too.

LA looked listless at the beginning of the game (I would say it's because they know they're not challenging for a playoff spot), but once they were engaged it was like waking the bear, the Flames played down to LA's strengths and LA won an ugly emotional game. No surprise. The silver lining for me is that this young Flames team is playing like they're not afraid of anybody, and picking fights with heavy former multiple cup winners is a great test to measure playofff readiness. With more reliable secondary scoring (ie: 3rd & 4th lines) I really like Flames chances against anybody in a 7 game series.

[edn88]

I was at the game last night. First period was great.

Flames should have known better than to get into it with Iggy - getting him mad seems to get him going. Great that Tkachuk answered the bell, and loved that he was in Doughty's kitchen, but Tkachuk should have been the one drawing the other guys into unsportsmanlike penalties. He got rookied so bad when he dropped the gloves. Also Doughty needs to take care of his own business.
Expected more out of physical players (our first line was not getting it done).
As an Iginla fan, was nice to see him get the Gordie Howe hattrick. His plus/minus is awful, but his 82 game projection if he had played with the Kings would have put him at 31+ goals for the year.
As for the Flames - if they miss the playoffs, it is because we would have lost 6 straight against the California teams - which is possible, but in all seriousness if the Flames lose 6 straight against those teams, then we were just taking up a spot in the playoffs. I'd rather see Iggy go for the cup than see a Flames team swept in 4 against the Hawks. If what we saw last night was indicative of what a playoff game would look like for this squad - then they are dead meat.
Having said that, I am pretty sure that was an off night for the guys last night.