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Old 03-24-2017, 03:07 PM   #6941
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The saga of healthcare keeps taking crazy turn after crazy turn. Obamacare didn't do enough to lower premiums and deductibles for enough people, so people voted in someone who would fix it with promises that would only make them worse off. And then Obamacare survived only because it wasn't doing enough to make them worse off.
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:07 PM   #6942
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When Obama explodes eh?
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:09 PM   #6943
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When Obama explodes eh?
I believe they meant Obamacare. Would make more sense.
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Here's the article based on Trump's own call to a WaPo reporter:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.b9bfc0258658
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:21 PM   #6945
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So the democrats need to go to Trump with their fix for the ACA. It's win/win it either fixes the ACA or Trump gets blamed on healthcare again. (The problem is that house Dems likely have also spent the last 7 years not woeking on a solution)

It's an amazing spin job they with the presidency, and both houses they will blame the Dems for not supporting it.
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Too good not to share:

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Blaming Democrats is beyond hilarious. Donny is so lame.
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:58 PM   #6950
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We have control of congress, the senate and presidency. We couldn't get three dozen of our own on board.

Conclusion: it's the democrats fault
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:59 PM   #6951
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Republicans obstructing Republicans, awesome.
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Old 03-24-2017, 04:00 PM   #6952
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The Republicans have a 44 seat advantage in the House. When Trump says they were 6-12 votes short of passing it, that really means there were at least 28 of their own people who weren't willing to vote for it.
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Old 03-24-2017, 04:09 PM   #6953
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So the democrats need to go to Trump with their fix for the ACA. It's win/win it either fixes the ACA or Trump gets blamed on healthcare again. (The problem is that house Dems likely have also spent the last 7 years not woeking on a solution)

It's an amazing spin job they with the presidency, and both houses they will blame the Dems for not supporting it.
I liked the speech Trump did after they pulled the Bill. Democrats are in a Lose Lose right now. For them to play partisan politics particularly on a terrible alternative that is Obamacare is bad politics for them. Trump saying he wants Democratic support for a new Bill is him reaching out. The people need a government that works together. Expecting 100% support or opposition from a party on any Bill is not real politics.

So lets hear from people that are living in the US on this forum and their view on Obamacare. Is it working for you or has it been a disaster? Hillary just tweeted its a great day for Americans. I have previously posted my grievances. My rates went up 49%. Coverage decreased and deductibles increased. Most people I know make over $15,000 so do not get covered for free healthcare. Some make 30-50k per year and they cannot afford the premium hikes. They will need to pay the $4500 Obamacare tax. Are there any people on this forum who live in the USA that have anything positive to say about Obamacare?
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Old 03-24-2017, 04:10 PM   #6954
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The republicans did a great job working together with Dems when Obama was president. Yep, they sure did.
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Old 03-24-2017, 04:11 PM   #6955
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So about Trump's insistence that this is all part of some grand plan to see Obamacare fail and hang it all on the Democrats: even it that were true, the best possible outcome of that is that it allows the Republicans to get a mix of hardliners and moderates elected, and control of both the house and the senate, and the presidency, so that they can... be exactly back where they were yesterday with all the power that the system can provide and zero ability to get anything done with all that power.
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I liked the speech Trump did after they pulled the Bill. Democrats are in a Lose Lose right now. For them to play partisan politics particularly on a terrible alternative that is Obamacare is bad politics for them. Trump saying he wants Democratic support for a new Bill is him reaching out. The people need a government that works together. Expecting 100% support or opposition from a party on any Bill is not real politics.
So much hilarity. wouldn't even know how to start.
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I liked the speech Trump did after they pulled the Bill. Democrats are in a Lose Lose right now. For them to play partisan politics particularly on a terrible alternative that is Obamacare is bad politics for them. Trump saying he wants Democratic support for a new Bill is him reaching out. The people need a government that works together. Expecting 100% support or opposition from a party on any Bill is not real politics.

So lets hear from people that are living in the US on this forum and their view on Obamacare. Is it working for you or has it been a disaster? Hillary just tweeted its a great day for Americans. I have previously posted my grievances. My rates went up 49%. Coverage decreased and deductibles increased. Most people I know make over $15,000 so do not get covered for free healthcare. Some make 30-50k per year and they cannot afford the premium hikes. They will need to pay the $4500 Obamacare tax. Are there any people on this forum who live in the USA that have anything positive to say about Obamacare?
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Off topic. Why did my post up above get an Atlanta Flame A above it?
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Old 03-24-2017, 04:19 PM   #6959
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Off topic. Why did my post up above get an Atlanta Flame A above it?
probably unknowing added an icon. they are below the text box in advanced.
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They spent so much time obstructing Obama they forgot how to do anything else
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