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Old 03-21-2017, 08:34 PM   #6481
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I kinda want to know what the face palm and double face palm moments in thisthread are.
Well, the biggest facepalm is when people claim that Trump is driving the lobbyists out of Washington - he's just given them more power in government.
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Having said that, I should probably remind y'all that this thread is meant to discuss current events and the daily flow of news and alternative facts coming out of the current US administration.

Stop rehashing things for the billionth time and keep the discussion moving or we'll have to lock this down.
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LOL What???? You think big money interests aren't going to profit off of more government intervention? Look what happened with tuition costs once the wise benevolent government guaranteed them? The prices haven't stopped going up.

You also saw it with Obamacare, the prices only went up and now you forced people into paying for something that they couldn't previously afford, then you fine them if they can't pay into it.

What was that about dissonance???
Wait, communism doesn't work? That's not what my liberal university taught me!
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For profit prisons?

Do you think health care is a right?
No privatized prisons is messed up and that should absolutely be handled by by the government. It's basically indentured servitude.

No I don't think healthcare is a right that should be provided by the government. Every citizen should have the freedom to choose the healthcare that they would like, and not be forced to pay into something that will be expensive and poor quality, or forced to foot the bill for some unproductive person in society. The governments only purpose should be to provide and maintain the human rights and liberties for it's citizens. That's it.
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Wait, communism doesn't work? That's not what my liberal university taught me!
Around a 100 million people dead this past century and some are still "feelin the Bern". LOL
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Around a 100 million people dead this past century and some are still "feelin the Bern". LOL
It's amazing what people will give up for "free stuff". Who needs freedom and liberty when you can go to community college for free free free! A government check for sitting at home because I don't want to work, sure here take all my rights too.
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Yes it should be, the insurance industry is an oligopoly with high barriers to entry meaning without regulation gouging will occur and the consumer is worse off.
I agree with you, there should be regulations that restrict this oligopoly, which actually is a violation of the free market. There needs to be some regulations that address this price fixing, and there needs to be some regulations cut as well. Actual competition and incentive are the only things that can keep the price down.
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Wait, communism doesn't work? That's not what my liberal university taught me!
Do you know what communism is?
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Hey guys we were given a warning. Please don't get this thread shut down.
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No privatized prisons is messed up and that should absolutely be handled by by the government. It's basically indentured servitude.

No I don't think healthcare is a right that should be provided by the government. Every citizen should have the freedom to choose the healthcare that they would like, and not be forced to pay into something that will be expensive and poor quality, or forced to foot the bill for some unproductive person in society. The governments only purpose should be to provide and maintain the human rights and liberties for it's citizens. That's it.
Lol,
Health care, definitely is not a human right and liberty.
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Hey guys we were given a warning. Please don't get this thread shut down.
Remember that time Trump said Obama wire tapped him? That was funny.
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Apparently socialized medicine is the road to the gulags, if nothing else you're both good for a laugh.
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I have a sinking feeling Trumpcare will pass through and Gorsuch will be easily confirmed.
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It's amazing what people will give up for "free stuff". Who needs freedom and liberty when you can go to community college for free free free! A government check for sitting at home because I don't want to work, sure here take all my rights too.
Yes.

That is the way it always works.

All of the time.

Everywhere.

Surely you'll present plenty of examples, from the numerous examples that exist of exactly that situation.
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LOL.

Is that what infowars, Hannity and Breitbart told you? Two of these are also being investigated by the FBI, BTW.

And is Hillary Clinton the President of the United States?
Thankfully no!

It's what the evidence suggests. But since I'm not a bleeding heart Neo-Liberal I must be a ignorant bigoted redneck to you. It truly is puzzling why the left side of the aisle keeps losing elections. It might have something to do with this collectivist group think and putting everyone into preconceived boxes.
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You don't know what evidence means, either.
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Thankfully no!

It's what the evidence suggests. But since I'm not a bleeding heart Neo-Liberal I must be a ignorant bigoted redneck to you. It truly is puzzling why the left side of the aisle keeps losing elections. It might have something to do with this collectivist group think and putting everyone into preconceived boxes.
How many, which ones, and how big is your timeline?
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Lol,
Health care, definitely is not a human right and liberty.
Do you have an actual point?????

I would rather have the freedom to choose my healthcare, then be forced to pay into something that I don't need or want, or worse yet, foot the bill for a bunch of anonymous unproductive people. I'd rather have the freedom to choose to whom and what amount I give my charity.
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Yes.

That is the way it always works.

All of the time.

Everywhere.

Surely you'll present plenty of examples, from the numerous examples that exist of exactly that situation.
Actually do some research on Venezuela. It's truly sad what is happening there right now.
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Apparently socialized medicine is the road to the gulags, if nothing else you're both good for a laugh.
It's the road to an inefficient costly system where the government is in control. Not a gulag, but not desirable either. That's quite the leap there. Oh leftist tactics of argumentation are tiring.
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