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				You clearly don't understand it. 
   
 The ACA didn't eliminate insurers in the marketplace. 
   
 BTW- Canada is an example of a country that does have a monopoly on health insurance and our per capita costs are much lower than the US, both now and before the ACA. 
			
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30 million to over 300 million. Its a Big League problem that the previous administrations could not figure out. For everyones sake I hope this administration figures it out. I hear a lot of great ideas being pushed by the Republicans in the house and senate that I think are going to make huge fixes to the current state of affairs.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-21-2017, 03:41 PM
			
			
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				30 million to over 300 million. Its a Big League problem that the previous administrations could not figure out. For everyones sake I hope this administration figures it out. I hear a lot of great ideas being pushed by the Republicans in the house and senate that I think are going to make huge fixes to the current state of affairs. 
			
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bigly 
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			03-21-2017, 03:41 PM
			
			
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				Read somewhere that this based on intel that some terrorist org is looking at using lithium based batteries as an explosive.  Restrictions also apply on some flights from Montreal to the Middle East 
			
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I think you misread the article, that was a samsung note 7 recall.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-21-2017, 03:42 PM
			
			
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				30 million to over 300 million. Its a Big League problem that the previous administrations could not figure out. For everyones sake I hope this administration figures it out. I hear a lot of great ideas being pushed by the Republicans in the house and senate that I think are going to make huge fixes to the current state of affairs. 
			
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do tell.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				While I have no problem doing this as a Canadian outsider that isn't going to lose their insurance, why didn't you give the same leeway and trust to Obamacare? It's pretty clear from your posts that you've hated it since it was even a concept. 
 
You cite a single increase from 2016 to 2017 that you have completely attributed to Obamacare (6 years after its implementation) as the reason for the fact that the entire program is a failure. It's weird to me. 
			
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How could I like it man! Rates went up 49%! Imagine your phone bill went up 49% next month. Would you like that? Now imagine its something important like your health and rates premiums and deductibles go up and oh ya one last kicker, you lose your doctor. Yes its really weird someone would not like that outcome of the Obamacare policy, 6 years later.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-21-2017, 03:48 PM
			
			
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				30 million to over 300 million. Its a Big League problem that the previous administrations could not figure out. For everyones sake I hope this administration figures it out. I hear a lot of great ideas being pushed by the Republicans in the house and senate that I think are going to make huge fixes to the current state of affairs. 
			
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Yuuuuuuge fixes....sure.
 
There has not been any sign that this administration can propose effective policy on anything.   All the work I have seen has involved undoing policy and agencies...anything that has been introduced has been an unmitigated disaster.
 
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				How could I like it man! Rates went up 49%! Imagine your phone bill went up 49% next month. Would you like that? Now imagine its something important like your health and rates premiums and deductibles go up and oh ya one last kicker, you lose your doctor. Yes its really weird someone would not like that outcome of the Obamacare policy, 6 years later. 
			
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lol 
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Deregulation ideas mostly.  
 
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				lol 
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				Yuuuuuuge fixes....sure. 
 
There has not been any sign that this administration can propose effective policy on anything.   All the work I have seen has involved undoing policy and agencies...anything that has been introduced has been an unmitigated disaster. 
 
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You might be right. Time will tell.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-21-2017, 03:56 PM
			
			
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go on? which ones and how?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-21-2017, 04:01 PM
			
			
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				Look it up. Right now Im watching Gorsuch rocking it. 
			
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				lol. 
			
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				How could I like it man! Rates went up 49%! Imagine your phone bill went up 49% next month. Would you like that? Now imagine its something important like your health and rates premiums and deductibles go up and oh ya one last kicker, you lose your doctor. Yes its really weird someone would not like that outcome of the Obamacare policy, 6 years later. 
			
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And none of this is a result of the ACA.  I've already provided you proof that this was a result of Texas not managing their system worth a damn.  Also, the ACA doesn't prevent you from using your doctor, your insurance company and your doctor prevent you from having the access you want.  Your insurance company defines the network and then your doctor decides if they want to be part of the network.  No involvement of the Feds, just like before the ACA existed.  This is all a decision between your doctor and your insurance company.  You don't like the plan you are on, get a plan that your doctor accepts.  Simple as that.  That is the way competition and the market works, remember?
 
In the future you won't have to worry about this though.  You'll be getting a voucher for health insurance.  That voucher will cover probably a quarter of what your costs are now, and now increases to match what the insurance companies do when they kick 14M off the rolls.  Your vouchers won't be worth a damn and you'll be paying more for less.  Everyone knows this, which is why no one wants to support Don'tcare.  But I hope you get what you want, just so I can hear you say how great it is and how much choice you have... without insurance for your family.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				How could I like it man! Rates went up 49%! Imagine your phone bill went up 49% next month. Would you like that? Now imagine its something important like your health and rates premiums and deductibles go up and oh ya one last kicker, you lose your doctor. Yes its really weird someone would not like that outcome of the Obamacare policy, 6 years later. 
			
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If my phone bill went up 49% after 6 years, I'd say I came out ahead.
 
Telus and Shaw have been raising rates by 5-10% every 6 months. I'll let you do the math on how much that is after 6 years.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			texas flames fan makes me miss Gaudreauvertime. at least he worked harder. 
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				I expect Texas Flames Fan will see the light any minute now guys. Keep up the great work of rehashing the last 12 months of reality, I eagerly await Texas Flames Fan taking in this new, readily available information and re-examining his original positions. 
 
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			Holy #### people, stop replying to this guy. Do you really think you are going to engage him in a honest debate. It's all just spam, spam, and more spam...including the people replying.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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