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			Not ideal but not the end of the world either
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-19-2017, 05:05 PM
			
			
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			Coin toss or shootout....theres not a world of difference.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-19-2017, 05:55 PM
			
			
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			Brutal way to sort out a bantam hockey game.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-19-2017, 06:14 PM
			
			
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			How much longer would it have taken to decide it in a shootout? Maybe 5-10 mins tops?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-19-2017, 06:15 PM
			
			
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			They say there was a booking issue, but from my experience hockey associations try to book a shorter time and expect their OT to be allowed well passed their alloted time. Simply because it's a playoff game. 
 
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			03-19-2017, 06:28 PM
			
			
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			Bantam AA would book minimum 2 hours time slots. And have 20 minute stop time periods, with at least one flood during an intermission somewhere in the three periods. They usually book back to back to back for league games. As in, take all the ice between 530 and 11. Playoffs would be different of course as they get down to the semis and finals and need fewer ice times. Looking at the schedule at Hockey Calgary, looks like they had 2 hours booked.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-19-2017, 06:29 PM
			
			
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			Id be outraged as well, a coin toss? The only way to settle something fairly is rock, paper, scissors.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-19-2017, 06:37 PM
			
			
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			Team higher in the standings for regular season or other tiebreaker rules should come into play here other than a coin flip. That way a team knows going in that its up to them to ensure they are ahead. Another idea might be to just have a competition off the ice where kids have to flip their water bottles and the first team to do it moves on. 
 
But in all reality this is a scheduling issue to not allow for enough time to decide a winner.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-19-2017, 06:39 PM
			
			
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			Keep throwing shooters till it's over. Would have been done by the time they decided to flip the coin I bet.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-19-2017, 06:39 PM
			
			
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			Shoulda had the parents fight it out.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-19-2017, 06:39 PM
			
			
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			Poor decision by Winsport, but that's pretty petty and dangerous of the parents.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-19-2017, 06:40 PM
			
			
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			That's their secret, Cap. Calgary hockey parents are always outraged.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-19-2017, 06:59 PM
			
			
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				Poor decision by Winsport, but that's pretty petty and dangerous of the parents. 
			
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Which was what? Didnt see anything in the article listed.
 
A Double AA tournament game should never ever be decided by a coin flip though....this isnt a bunch of 7 year olds out there. 
 
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			03-19-2017, 07:13 PM
			
			
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			03-19-2017, 07:14 PM
			
			
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			How is this on winsport? The teams and/or minor hockey association screwed up and didn't book enough time. Even that I find hard to believe. As if they didn't know how long their booking was for.  
 
They knew the rules going in, or at least should have, and were responsible for booking enough time. They didn't.  
 
I'm sure if they really want they can lobby the association to allow them to book an hour of ice time and have a proper OT and shootout.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			03-19-2017, 07:18 PM
			
			
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			Almost every sports tournament I've been involved in, the rules state that in the event of a tie (after goal difference, penalty shots (soccer or hockey), goals for and against etc) the final tie breaker is a coin toss. 
Now, usually its in a round robin type of thing, but its there (and probably in the rules here too) because something has to be decided and there is not the time for further tie breakers.
 
But many times as a kid, playing with 7-10 minutes left in the game but it got delayed, and the clock suddenly went down to 2 minutes because the ice time was running out, and you had to deal with it. Same with Minor Hockey week back in the 80's - overtime was 5-5 with no goalies, and then every 3 minutes 1 kid from each team taken off the ice. That's really not much more than a coin flip, either.
 
Canada won the Gold Cup in 2000 in soccer in part due to winning a coin toss after the round robin in the earlier rounds, to just get into the QF - they then won the next 3 games.
 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle4160365/
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			03-19-2017, 07:31 PM
			
			
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				How is this on winsport? The teams and/or minor hockey association screwed up and didn't book enough time. Even that I find hard to believe. As if they didn't know how long their booking was for.  
 
They knew the rules going in, or at least should have, and were responsible for booking enough time. They didn't.  
 
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this was the city championship tournament, so not directly on the teams or their associations
 
coin toss team just won the Bantam AA final game
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-19-2017, 07:34 PM
			
			
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				this was the city championship tournament, so not directly on the teams or their associations 
 
coin toss team just won the Bantam AA final game 
			
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So this is hockey calgary's fault? Still not sure how winsport is to be blamed.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-19-2017, 07:39 PM
			
			
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			Yeah, this is the fault of whoever booked the ice time. Winsport just trying to honour all their commitments. 
 
That really does suck for the teams though. Pretty ####ty to be a player on the losing team because of it
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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