I haven't researched my answer but if I understand the question correctly, it seems doubtful. I think one would want the entire north segment or south segment done before the ribbon is cut. I suspect the plan would be to construct along the entire alignment at multiple work fronts. Of course, this would require funding to be in place for the whole thing- plus (a lot of) contingency.
If it came to it, one of the lines could be built from out of downtown, say the north line to Beddington and then expanded "outbound" as they could.
I'm glad the 9th Ave N station is being taken off the table. At 250 million I didn't think it was worth it. I live one block away from Centre Street at one of the above ground stations. It should be fun driving around that area for 2 years.
I like the tilt-shift work there. Are those vehicles running alongside the train real or added after for effect?
It's just an animation on top of Google Maps IIRC. The train, cars, tracks station.. basically anything that is the train route is the animated mock up. Some intersections look wonky but it's not the final product.
I haven't been up to the Beddington area in quite a while but isn't that intersection at Beddington Blvd and Center Street quite busy. I imagine that an at grade rail crossing is going to make for some crazy traffic issues.
I use 64th and Center pretty frequently and I think that will become difficult to navigate.
I haven't been up to the Beddington area in quite a while but isn't that intersection at Beddington Blvd and Center Street quite busy. I imagine that an at grade rail crossing is going to make for some crazy traffic issues.
I use 64th and Center pretty frequently and I think that will become difficult to navigate.
I don't even know where they're going to find the room to widen the road and put tracks in... Centre Street doesn't have that much room left on either side.
I don't even know where they're going to find the room to widen the road and put tracks in... Centre Street doesn't have that much room left on either side.
Yeah, look at the 40th Ave station. Either they cut out the school and Timmy's on the West side or more houses and the church on the East side.
*edit Looks like a lot of single lanes on Centre, especially Southbound.
Dang it I want my 9th avenue bomb shelter station!
New apocalypse plan, we walk over to the 2nd avenue underground station and then walk into the tunnel northbound until we reach the deepest point that would not flood should the Bow breech the tunnel.
Not having a station between 16th and downtown is going to look pretty silly in 20-30 years time.
No it won't, for local trips the bus is a very viable option for short trips.
What benefit does the train bring over a bus for the people living south of say 10th st. and the south end of the station is effectively located at 14th st. As soon as the alignment under the river was selected that station made no sense.
You can probably build 5 peace bridges for the cost of that station. So adding a pedestrian bridge option to the centre st underpass or another bridge is a far better option to get people who are down the hill. And depending on where you are you will have bridgeland, sunny side, 14th or 2nd ave within a 1km walk, most will be closer than that.
I don't even know where they're going to find the room to widen the road and put tracks in... Centre Street doesn't have that much room left on either side.
I don't think they are going to widen Centre, my understanding is they will reduce it to one lane in each direction (?). I stand to be corrected on that however.
And yes, I also feel eliminating the 9th Ave Station is a mistake. I also question the fact it would cost $250 million to build? That seems hugely expensive given the tunnel will already be there. So $250 million essentially for stairs/escalators, and some cement platforms?
I think it is becuase this is being done with a tunnel boring machine. So to skip the station, they just run the machine right through. To add it, you would have to excavate a large area with other equipment, and reinforce the ceilings, as well as all the access space to get down there. I could see $250 million being realistic.
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Not having a station between 16th and downtown is going to look pretty silly in 20-30 years time.
Or having the train pass through a station that has been decommissioned due to excessive maintenance costs and extreme lack of use is going to look silly in much shorter than 20 years. Especially when we consider that we spent 5% of the budget for the 45 km line on that one station.
I know with the other lines there are things that should have been done better. Elevate or bury 36th street. Downtown subway. I don't see this as being the same thing.
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Yeah, look at the 40th Ave station. Either they cut out the school and Timmy's on the West side or more houses and the church on the East side.
*edit Looks like a lot of single lanes on Centre, especially Southbound.
Even looking at it from the north end, around the Beddington area where the Safeway and Co-op are... they have to widen that to make it 2 lanes both ways and have the tracks in the middle, and there isn't much room to widen it.
Even if they use single lane traffic, without widening, how would they have tracks (which essentially take up one lane in each direction) and platforms at the stops?
I'm not an engineer or architect by any means, just some random citizen observations.
