American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS (Archive)

[Deviaant]

My uneducated guess is Trump is trying to nomalize crazy with some of these early policy's that clearly won't pass. In a year or so I bet we start to see some slightly less crazy policy's and we just accept them as they are not as bad as earlier.

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[Senator Clay Davis]

It's not his password at least, but Spicer again tweeting something out that was likely meant to be private (deleted)

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by REDVAN

Fair points.



Trump shoots first and asks questions later. The rest of the GOP candidates would have asked questions first and then shot... but still shot.

So responsible thinking adults would have thought through the problem, planned how to address it, and done it.

Trump addresses the problem, people criticize his action, his people re-do it, re-enact his solutions, then do it.

I do agree that many, if not all, of his public comments (specifically via twitter) are insane and un-presidential.

No other GOP candidate would give Bannon the time of day...let alone a seat a the Security Council Table

[GirlySports]

that sign, does she want to defund viagra or fund abortions?

[ernie]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

that sign, does she want to defund viagra or fund abortions?

Might be abortions but I'm thinking birth control which was a huge win for women under the ACA. A win that will be disappear quickly if this GOP "plan" goes through.

And I put "plan" in quotes because it is poorly thought out given it's to replace something they've been whining about for 6 years. Remarkably so.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Yeah, I read the article. That doesn't make it true. The President putting his name on a prostitution business seems like something other media outlets would pick up on. But hey, maybe they will if it is true.



I'd like to think even this nutcase would stay away from such a thing, but who knows?

Did anyone here read the article? It was very clearly done for trademark protection reasons given the way Chinese law works. No one is or should be suggesting he's getting into the prostitution racket. There are plenty of legitimate issues with Trump - this type of 'fake news' (in this case news that isn't significant but is published to raise eyebrows) undercuts the real issues.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I don't think anyone thinks it's an issue, it's mostly just funny. We need to take time out to laugh at this debacle of an administration, otherwise all we'd do is cry.

[ResAlien]

Uuugh it's not fake news. You may disagree with the slant of the article but it is not fake. The trademark exists yes? This is not less and fabricated facts, it is the story about a trademark filing in China.

Fake news is "ZOMG OBAMA IS A KENYAN MUSLIM WHO MURDERED BABIES IN BOWLING GREEN". It's interesting and depressing at how quickly the term has grown and become a bastardization of what it actually is. Trump wins this round.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Uuugh it's not fake news. You may disagree with the slant of the article but it is not fake. The trademark exists yes? This is not less and fabricated facts, it is the story about a trademark filing in China.

Fake news is "ZOMG OBAMA IS A KENYAN MUSLIM WHO MURDERED BABIES IN BOWLING GREEN". It's interesting and depressing at how quickly the term has grown and become a bastardization of what it actually is. Trump wins this round.

Yeah you're right, it was real news. I just think people are bending over backwards to find anything that makes Trump look bad, but that just adds to the noise level which in turn plays into his hands. His supporters see any number of petty posts against him and interpret it as hostile media, which helps them discredit anything the media says.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

that sign, does she want to defund viagra or fund abortions?

your post, intentionally obtuse, or making a backhanded comment?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

that sign, does she want to defund viagra or fund abortions?

It's about pointing out hypocrisy.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

your post, intentionally obtuse, or making a backhanded comment?

Asking incredibly stupid questions is her shtick.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Deviaant

My uneducated guess is Trump is trying to nomalize crazy with some of these early policy's that clearly won't pass. In a year or so I bet we start to see some slightly less crazy policy's and we just accept them as they are not as bad as earlier.

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People thought "crazy" was just his campaign persona, and he would normalize as president. We all know how that worked out. Expecting him to get less crazy over time? That's just crazy.

[Deviaant]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

People thought "crazy" was just his campaign persona, and he would normalize as president. We all know how that worked out. Expecting him to get less crazy over time? That's just crazy.

Yeah I suppose it is.

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[Thor]

Obama irked and exasperated in response to Trump's wiretapping claims, sources say

http://us.cnn.com/2017/03/08/politic...ing/index.html

[direwolf]

Interesting piece by Matt Taibbi about the possible danger that journalists face in how they choose to cover the ongoing Russia story.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-media-w471074

We have to remember that the unpopularity of the press was a key to Trump's election. Journalists helped solve the billionaire's accessibility problem by being a more hated group than the arrogant rich. Trump has people believing he shares a common enemy with them: the news media. When we do badly, he does well.

Hypothesize for a moment that the "scandal" here is real, but in a limited sense: Trump's surrogates have not colluded with Russians, but have had “contacts,” and recognize their political liability, and lie about them. Investigators then leak the true details of these contacts, leaving the wild speculations to the media and the Internet. Trump is enough of a pig and a menace that it's easy to imagine doing this and not feeling terribly sorry that your leaks have been over-interpreted.

If that's the case, there are big dangers for the press. If we engage in Times-style gilding of every lily the leakers throw our way, and in doing so build up a fever of expectations for a bombshell reveal, but there turns out to be no conspiracy – Trump will be pre-inoculated against all criticism for the foreseeable future.

The press has to cover this subject. But it can't do it with glibness and excitement, laughing along to SNL routines, before it knows for sure what it's dealing with. Reporters should be scared to their marrow by this story. This is a high-wire act and it is a very long way down. We might want to leave the jokes and the nicknames be, until we get to the other side – wherever that is.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Asking incredibly stupid questions is her shtick.

Don't be a jackass...

And to answer Girlysport's question...it has to be pro-abortion. Nobody is pro-limpdick.

But really its anti-hypocrisy as mentioned earlier.

[DuffMan]

I bet Trump takes a lot of Viagra. Sean Hannity would know.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

Nobody is pro-limpdick.

62,985,106 Americans disagree.

[direwolf]

Looks like all the major hospital groups in the U.S. took a look at this new TrumpCare bill and said "nope".

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/08/u...T.nav=top-news

On Wednesday afternoon, all major hospital groups, including the American Hospital Association, the Association of American Medical Colleges, the Catholic Health Association of the United States and the Children’s Hospital Association, came out against the Republican bill.

“As organizations that take care of every individual who walks through our doors, both due to our mission and our obligations under federal law, we are committed to ensuring health care coverage is available and affordable for all,” they wrote. “As a result, we cannot support the American Health Care Act as currently written.”

The American Medical Association, which has nearly 235,000 members and calls itself “the voice of the medical profession,” sent a letter to leaders of the two committees on Tuesday saying it could not support the Republican bill “because of the expected decline in health insurance coverage and the potential harm it would cause to vulnerable patient populations.” In particular, the group came out against a plan to replace the sliding, income-based premium tax credits provided under the Affordable Care Act with fixed credits based on age. The current system, it said, “provides the greatest chance that those of the least means are able to purchase coverage.”