American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS (Archive)

[Lanny_McDonald]

Trying to get things back on course, how is Jason Chaffetz not all over this stuff? What is his end game here?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-draw14&wpmm=1

[aaronck]

Just saw part of the White House briefing on CNN- spicy has 2 piles of paper beside him, and THAT is why the new plan is better, it's smaller, not as "Government" as the old plan. http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...alth-care-act/

How can this government keep pulling out piles of paperwork (without ever showing anyone what's on them) like with his conflict of interest papers to demonstrate what they mean?

Also, I think one of the main reasons that Healthcare is so expensive might be the CEO's bonus', huge executive salaries and paying lobbyists, not the ACA.

[direwolf]

Spicer's briefing was beyond ridiculous today. I hope SNL has Melissa McCarthy on deck for this week's show. Today was a gold mine of material just screaming out to be made fun of.

[flylock shox]

The piles of paper probably count as "evidence" for Trump's stupider supporters, and generally as a heuristic trick aimed at making whatever spicy says more persuasive.

[Drak]

Speaking of SNL, I read an article about Alec Baldwin today where he says he won't play Trump much longer. That things are just too serious and it's weighing on him.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by Drak

Speaking of SNL, I read an article about Alec Baldwin today where he says he won't play Trump much longer. That things are just too serious and it's weighing on him.

Maybe Rosie O'Donnell could pull it off...Drumph would explode.

[FlameOn]

Apparently Trump met personally with the Russian ambassador during his presidential campaign in April, 2016 prior to his policy speech. He was sitting front row in an invitation only VIP event immediately and was greeted "warmly" after speaking with Trump. This is despite numerous claims that he, and no one from his campaign, ever spoke to anyone from Russia on Feb, 2017.

Trump personally met with the Russian ambassador on April 27, 2016, prior to a major foreign policy speech. The Wall Street Journal, in a report that was little-noticed at the time but was recently picked up by AMERICABlog News, reported the meeting last year.

A few minutes before he made those remarks, Mr. Trump met at a VIP reception with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Ivanovich Kislyak. Mr. Trump warmly greeted Mr. Kislyak and three other foreign ambassadors who came to the reception. Kislyak, according to multiple contemporaneous news reports, was seated in the front row. It was an invitation-only event.

In an April 27 foreign-policy speech, Trump said that while the United States and Russia had "serious differences," he believes it is "absolutely possible" to ease current tensions with Moscow if Washington approaches the relationship "from a position of strength."

"Common sense says this cycle -- this horrible cycle of hostility -- must end, and ideally it will end soon," Trump said as Russia's ambassador to the United States, Sergei Kislyak, sat in the front row for the candidate's wide-ranging speech at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington.

References to his meeting with Russian ambassador
http://americablog.com/2017/03/newsm...e-denials.html
http://www.rferl.org/a/us-trump-fore.../27702091.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-...tin-1463172396

Claims he did not speak to Russians
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/20/u...mp-russia.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...lynn/98007250/

For people who are having trouble keeping track of what Trump has done. A simple cited list of his actions
http://trump-track.com/list-view/

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Drak

Speaking of SNL, I read an article about Alec Baldwin today where he says he won't play Trump much longer. That things are just too serious and it's weighing on him.

Too serious, meaning he's getting death threats, etc? Just curious as to the context.

[photon]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Too serious, meaning he's getting death threats, etc? Just curious as to the context.

"The maliciousness of this White House has people very worried, which is why I'm not going to do it much longer by the way, the impersonation," Baldwin told "Extra" on Monday. "I don't know how much more people can take it, you know."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entert...307-story.html

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

For people who are having trouble keeping track of what Trump has done. A simple cited list of his actions
http://trump-track.com/list-view/

wow

[stampsx2]

I'm hoping the anti trump crowd can school me on the reasons trump's a monster. I've looked in the media and haven't seen end of the world attocities. I've seen the headlines "Muslims banned from America" then I read further and it's Muslims from several countries banned till proper checks are done because apparently these are country's that have terror cells?

From what I'm seeing his policies aren't a whole lot different than previous administrations. The wall - one third was already built and Mexico has one with Guatemala, deporting criminals - already happening under Obama, replacing obamacare - probably would of happened under any republican, keystone and other pipelines also would of happened under any republican president.

His presentation is pretty bad but probably 99% of Americans are living their day to day lives the same as they did before the elections. Yes buying a ticket to New York then not being able to go would suck. I got that.

Actually trump has a 42% approval rate. That's higher than Notley 35% approval and Wynne 16% approval. The highest approval of any recent president was JFK at 60% and even that was short lived. Trudeau is at 55%.

I'm trying to understand why this president deserves to be hated as much as he is? What has he done that republicans wouldn't have done anyway?

I know i'm posting in the trump hate on thread so fire away.

[Swift]

Originally Posted by Drak

Speaking of SNL, I read an article about Alec Baldwin today where he says he won't play Trump much longer. That things are just too serious and it's weighing on him.

I swear I read something last week where he was planning on writing a book in character as Trump.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

I'm hoping the anti trump crowd can school me on the reasons trump's a monster. I've looked in the media and haven't seen end of the world attocities. I've seen the headlines "Muslims banned from America" then I read further and it's Muslims from several countries banned till proper checks are done because apparently these are country's that have terror cells?

From what I'm seeing his policies aren't a whole lot different than previous administrations. The wall - one third was already built and Mexico has one with Guatemala, deporting criminals - already happening under Obama, replacing obamacare - probably would of happened under any republican, keystone and other pipelines also would of happened under any republican president.

His presentation is pretty bad but probably 99% of Americans are living their day to day lives the same as they did before the elections. Yes buying a ticket to New York then not being able to go would suck. I got that.

Actually trump has a 42% approval rate. That's higher than Notley 35% approval and Wynne 16% approval. The highest approval of any recent president was JFK at 60% and even that was short lived. Trudeau is at 55%.

I'm trying to understand why this president deserves to be hated as much as he is? What has he done that republicans wouldn't have done anyway?

I know i'm posting in the trump hate on thread so fire away.

He's a bull####ting moron, bought and paid for by Putin, you need more than that?

[direwolf]

It appears the new DontCare bill has created a big mess, particularly among Republicans.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politi...ess/index.html

The fiercest opposition is coming from some of the most conservative Republicans in Congress who have labeled the new legislation "Obamacare Lite" and "Obamacare 2.0." They are warning party leaders that the bill simply doesn't go far enough in gutting the current health care system.

"The bill's dead. Too many conservative groups are coming out against it. There's no way they'll have the votes to pass it in its current form," a conservative House aide told CNN, in a sign of some lawmakers' desire to flex their muscles and make a hard push for changes to the bill.

The conservative backlash also does not reflect reservations among more moderate members of the party. Health care experts widely agree that the GOP plan would result in millions losing coverage -- an outcome that some Republicans are reticent to try to defend to their constituents back home.

Doug Heye, a senior aide to former House Majority Leader Eric Cantor who was involved in the GOP's extended and failed efforts in 2014 to craft an Obamacare replacement bill, said the suggestion that the new GOP Obamacare bill could be dead on arrival -- was hardly a stretch.

"This kind of goes back to everything Republicans have tried and failed to do for the past four years. What is the incentive to vote yes; what is the punishment for voting no? How do you then get to 218?" said Heye, a CNN contributor. "When Boehner said the week before last, Republicans never agreed on health care his entire career, he was right."

Heye was referring to former House Speaker John Boehner's recent prediction that Republicans would not go through with repealing and replacing Obamacare, but rather, "fix" the law, instead.

"In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like," Boehner said. "Not once."

Pressure is mounting fast with a slew of conservative groups coming out against the Obamacare bill. The Club for Growth panned the legislation as a "warmed-over substitute for government-run health care." Heritage Action said there is "no significant difference between the Affordable Care Act" and what House GOP leaders have proposed. "That is bad politics and, more importantly, bad policy," the group's CEO, Michael Needham, said.
Freedom Partners and Americans for Prosperity are also opposed to the bill.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

I'm hoping the anti trump crowd can school me on the reasons trump's a monster. I've looked in the media and haven't seen end of the world attocities. I've seen the headlines "Muslims banned from America" then I read further and it's Muslims from several countries banned till proper checks are done because apparently these are country's that have terror cells?

I know i'm posting in the trump hate on thread so fire away.

refer to this

[Senator Clay Davis]

Wikileaks is gonna need some more distractions




http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ndowski-235784

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

I'm hoping the anti trump crowd can school me on the reasons trump's a monster. I've looked in the media and haven't seen end of the world attocities. I've seen the headlines "Muslims banned from America" then I read further and it's Muslims from several countries banned till proper checks are done because apparently these are country's that have terror cells?

From what I'm seeing his policies aren't a whole lot different than previous administrations. The wall - one third was already built and Mexico has one with Guatemala, deporting criminals - already happening under Obama, replacing obamacare - probably would of happened under any republican, keystone and other pipelines also would of happened under any republican president.

His presentation is pretty bad but probably 99% of Americans are living their day to day lives the same as they did before the elections. Yes buying a ticket to New York then not being able to go would suck. I got that.

Actually trump has a 42% approval rate. That's higher than Notley 35% approval and Wynne 16% approval. The highest approval of any recent president was JFK at 60% and even that was short lived. Trudeau is at 55%.

I'm trying to understand why this president deserves to be hated as much as he is? What has he done that republicans wouldn't have done anyway?

I know i'm posting in the trump hate on thread so fire away.

Originally Posted by stampsx2

And this is exactly why everybody shouldn't vote. If you haven't taken some time to look into what the issues are and what each party stands for then don't vote. Don't just vote because you have a right. Vote for what you believe in.

huh

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

I'm hoping the anti trump crowd can school me on the reasons trump's a monster. I've looked in the media and haven't seen end of the world attocities. I've seen the headlines "Muslims banned from America" then I read further and it's Muslims from several countries banned till proper checks are done because apparently these are country's that have terror cells?

From what I'm seeing his policies aren't a whole lot different than previous administrations. The wall - one third was already built and Mexico has one with Guatemala, deporting criminals - already happening under Obama, replacing obamacare - probably would of happened under any republican, keystone and other pipelines also would of happened under any republican president.

His presentation is pretty bad but probably 99% of Americans are living their day to day lives the same as they did before the elections. Yes buying a ticket to New York then not being able to go would suck. I got that.

Actually trump has a 42% approval rate. That's higher than Notley 35% approval and Wynne 16% approval. The highest approval of any recent president was JFK at 60% and even that was short lived. Trudeau is at 55%.

I'm trying to understand why this president deserves to be hated as much as he is? What has he done that republicans wouldn't have done anyway?

I know i'm posting in the trump hate on thread so fire away.

You haven't seen the constant lying by him and his surrogates? The ignorance of what his job entails, and contempt for how government checks and balances work? The childish twitter rants against anyone who criticizes him?

You didn't see how poorly planned the first travel ban was that it stopped people who had lived and worked in the US for decades from returning to their homes after being abroad? That it didn't include countries like Saudi Arabia, which funded 9/11, for some odd reason? That it gave Christians special treatment, when it's Muslims who are more likely to be targeted by groups such as ISIS?

You didn't see that they're not just deporting criminals?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/u...heco.html?_r=0

I could go on, and on, and on.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

I'm hoping the anti trump crowd can school me on the reasons trump's a monster. I've looked in the media and haven't seen end of the world attocities. I've seen the headlines "Muslims banned from America" then I read further and it's Muslims from several countries banned till proper checks are done because apparently these are country's that have terror cells?

From what I'm seeing his policies aren't a whole lot different than previous administrations. The wall - one third was already built and Mexico has one with Guatemala, deporting criminals - already happening under Obama, replacing obamacare - probably would of happened under any republican, keystone and other pipelines also would of happened under any republican president.

His presentation is pretty bad but probably 99% of Americans are living their day to day lives the same as they did before the elections. Yes buying a ticket to New York then not being able to go would suck. I got that.

Actually trump has a 42% approval rate. That's higher than Notley 35% approval and Wynne 16% approval. The highest approval of any recent president was JFK at 60% and even that was short lived. Trudeau is at 55%.

I'm trying to understand why this president deserves to be hated as much as he is? What has he done that republicans wouldn't have done anyway?

I know i'm posting in the trump hate on thread so fire away.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

i'm hoping the anti trump crowd can school me on the reasons trump's a monster. I've looked in the media and haven't seen end of the world attocities. I've seen the headlines "muslims banned from america" then i read further and it's muslims from several countries banned till proper checks are done because apparently these are country's that have terror cells?

From what i'm seeing his policies aren't a whole lot different than previous administrations. The wall - one third was already built and mexico has one with guatemala, deporting criminals - already happening under obama, replacing obamacare - probably would of happened under any republican, keystone and other pipelines also would of happened under any republican president.

His presentation is pretty bad but probably 99% of americans are living their day to day lives the same as they did before the elections. Yes buying a ticket to new york then not being able to go would suck. I got that.

Actually trump has a 42% approval rate. That's higher than notley 35% approval and wynne 16% approval. The highest approval of any recent president was jfk at 60% and even that was short lived. Trudeau is at 55%.

I'm trying to understand why this president deserves to be hated as much as he is? What has he done that republicans wouldn't have done anyway?

I know i'm posting in the trump hate on thread so fire away.

w. T. F.