03-05-2017, 02:07 AM
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#5321
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At some point soon some very annoyed spooks at the CIA, FBI or NSA are going to start sending dumps of information to WikiLeaks with anything they can find about anyone in Trumps Cabinet or team.
These are not people you can hide a thing from and its not a good idea to piss them off.
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03-05-2017, 02:43 AM
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#5322
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WikiLeaks is a Russian channel. They're not going to turn on their handlers.
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03-05-2017, 05:17 AM
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#5323
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God of Hating Twitter
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I know some of the former wikileaks people here in Iceland, and yeah that is the consensus from them.
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03-05-2017, 07:47 AM
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#5324
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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LolTrump
Congress should investigate everything Breitbart claims.
(CNN)#Urgent -- President Donald Trump is asking Congress to look into whether the Obama administration abused its investigative powers during the 2016 election, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said in a statement Sunday.
"Reports concerning potentially politically motivated investigations immediately ahead of the 2016 election are very troubling," Spicer said, posting the statement on Twitter. "President Donald J. Trump is requesting that as part of their investigation into Russian activity, the congressional intelligence committees exercise their oversight authority to determine whether executive branch investigative powers were abused in 2016.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/05/politi....html?adkey=bn
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03-05-2017, 08:27 AM
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#5325
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^I was just about to post the same link to Trump wanting Obama investigated. What a clown.
Where there is smoke there is usually fire; with the amount of smoke coming off the Trump admin, there almost certainly is a fire. The diversion tactics are constant.
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03-05-2017, 08:58 AM
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#5328
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary
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While everyone has been collecteively distracted by Trump's mess, the Republicans have been pushing these bills:
H.R. 861: To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency
H.R. 610: Tax dollars for private schools
H.R. 899: To terminate the Department of Education
H.J.R. 69: To repeal a wildlife protection bill that banned "non-subsistence" hunting in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge
H.R. 370: To repeal the Affordable Care Act.
H.R. 354: To defund Planned Parenthood.
H.R. 785: National right-to-work legislation that would prove crippling for workers unions by depriving them of funds.
H.R. 83: Mobilizing against Sanctuary Cities.
H.R. 147: To criminalize abortion by making it a felony punishable by up to five years in prison.
http://resistancereport.com/politics...ills-congress/
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03-05-2017, 09:43 AM
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#5329
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
At some point soon some very annoyed spooks at the CIA, FBI or NSA are going to start sending dumps of information to WikiLeaks with anything they can find about anyone in Trumps Cabinet or team.
These are not people you can hide a thing from and its not a good idea to piss them off.
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Wikileaks is a Russian source.
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03-05-2017, 09:52 AM
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#5330
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This is all laid out nicely.
https://twitter.com/justinhendrix/st...10340579426304
This is baffling. Probably intentionally so. They're repeatedly admitting that a FISA court permitted surveillance of them for espionage. The only way you'd want people to know that is if you were planning to gaslight them somehow. I think the bet is that the public is in general too stupid and has too short an attention span to figure out how all of this stuff works even at the most basic level.
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03-05-2017, 10:00 AM
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#5331
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
This is all laid out nicely.
https://twitter.com/justinhendrix/st...10340579426304
This is baffling. Probably intentionally so. They're repeatedly admitting that a FISA court permitted surveillance of them for espionage. The only way you'd want people to know that is if you were planning to gaslight them somehow. I think the bet is that the public is in general too stupid and has too short an attention span to figure out how all of this stuff works even at the most basic level. |
"Forget the myths the media created about the White House. The truth is, these aren't very bright guys, and things got out of hand." https://t.co/8ZoovuUAFT
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03-05-2017, 10:06 AM
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#5332
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I think we all expected incompetence, but I would imagine even all of us are kinda shocked how staggeringly incompetent they have been so far. Trump won basically all the late deciding votes in the election. We should only be polling those people from here on out to see the buyers remorse.
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03-05-2017, 10:11 AM
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#5333
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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(1/4) Reports concerning potentially politically motivated investigations immediately ahead of the 2016 election are very troubling.
https://twitter.com/PressSec
Lol..
Step 1) Tell the Big Lie
Step 2) Let the press report the big lie
Step 3) Call for an investigation into incident, everyone's writing about it!
Also funny that Spicer says "(4/4) Neither the White House nor the President will comment further until such oversight is conducted.", then comments further shortly after.
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03-05-2017, 10:12 AM
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#5334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
I think we all expected incompetence, but I would imagine even all of us are kinda shocked how staggeringly incompetent they have been so far. Trump won basically all the late deciding votes in the election. We should only be polling those people from here on out to see the buyers remorse.
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https://twitter.com/trump_regrets?lang=en
Trump Regrets is an occasionally fascinating if depressing read. The variety of expressions of disappointment is what really makes it sad. Everything from people angry that he's not deporting everyone vaguely brown, to rage at his hurting endangered species by eliminating the EPA, to "your silence against hate crime is deafening", to people angry that he's not pro-legal-pot, to this:
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Sellout! Why did I vote for @realDonaldTrump if he wasn't gonna put an end to this LGBTQ ridiculousness?!?! @politico @DonaldJTrumpJr
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You have to admit, he certainly put together a broad coalition of stupid to get the job.
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03-05-2017, 10:13 AM
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#5335
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
This is all laid out nicely.
https://twitter.com/justinhendrix/st...10340579426304
This is baffling. Probably intentionally so. They're repeatedly admitting that a FISA court permitted surveillance of them for espionage. The only way you'd want people to know that is if you were planning to gaslight them somehow. I think the bet is that the public is in general too stupid and has too short an attention span to figure out how all of this stuff works even at the most basic level. |
To put my previous post more succinctly:
Trump read it in Breitbart and believed it. His sycophants then try to appease him by going after the enemy. There's no bet on public understanding or not understanding anything. This is not calculated. He did not strategically admit to the American public that he was/is being investigated for espionage, because he lacks the complexity to understand that's what he was doing.
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03-05-2017, 10:16 AM
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#5336
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You could well be right. It really is hard to tell sometimes, and potential strategies based on the public being stupid are probably good bets, which is why I am always hesitant to immediately assume, "oh, they're just idiots". Especially when it's this obvious that this was a stupid thing to do.
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03-05-2017, 10:17 AM
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#5337
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
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03-05-2017, 10:18 AM
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#5338
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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03-05-2017, 10:24 AM
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#5339
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
https://twitter.com/trump_regrets?lang=en
Trump Regrets is an occasionally fascinating if depressing read. The variety of expressions of disappointment is what really makes it sad. Everything from people angry that he's not deporting everyone vaguely brown, to rage at his hurting endangered species by eliminating the EPA, to "your silence against hate crime is deafening", to people angry that he's not pro-legal-pot, to this:
You have to admit, he certainly put together a broad coalition of stupid to get the job.
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Yeah reading Trump Regrets since the start of the Presidency, it's pretty clear what Trump really excelled at in the campaign was simply confusing people as to what he was really about (and taking advantage of a lot of hate). And that if by some miracle he gets to 2020 to run again, he's gonna have an almost impossible time winning a lot of those people over again, because he will be on the record this time with actual policies he signed.
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03-05-2017, 10:57 AM
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Yeah reading Trump Regrets since the start of the Presidency, it's pretty clear what Trump really excelled at in the campaign was simply confusing people as to what he was really about (and taking advantage of a lot of hate). And that if by some miracle he gets to 2020 to run again, he's gonna have an almost impossible time winning a lot of those people over again, because he will be on the record this time with actual policies he signed.
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To say that though would be to assume that gullible people can only be had once. I think it'd be a mistake to make those assumptions again in 2020.
Being susceptible to bull#### isn't typically a character trait one can recognize and/or grow out of.
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