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View Poll Results: Do you like the Lazar trade to Calgary?
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Love it
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Like it
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neutral
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29.48% |
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Don't like it
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Hate it
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03-01-2017, 03:29 PM
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#521
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by polak
Picking at the draft gives them the benefit of consensus rankings. If they went way off the board in the 2nd round I'd probably think it was dumb too.
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This is a terrible draft, and the "consensus rankings" will mean very little when they get to the 50s +. Just another reason why that 2nd is even more of a crapshoot.
On the reverse, we're talking about a known commodity who they've scouted at the NHL level for some time.
You can not like it all you want. It's the flawed, hyperbolic reasoning and the incessant going on and on about it that the typical Polak negative nonsense.
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03-01-2017, 03:31 PM
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#522
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
Super. No need to agree with me.
Same scouts that haven't been able to produce one NHL'er outside of the top 10 yet? Including two first rounders?
Yeah they're flawless.
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As others have mentioned, clearly the Flames have players on their roster which were drafted outside of the top 10 (Backlund, Ferland, Brodie, Gaudreau, Bouma)...
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03-01-2017, 03:31 PM
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#523
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
He can't. McPhee MUST select one player from each team.
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I may be misremembering, but doesn't Vegas have the option to negotiate with free agents before July 1st, and any signings they make before then count as their expansion draft selection for the team losing that UFA?
Maybe I'm just making things up, but that was my understanding.
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03-01-2017, 03:31 PM
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#524
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
As others have mentioned, clearly the Flames have players on their roster which were drafted outside of the top 10 (Backlund, Ferland, Brodie, Gaudreau, Bouma)...
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None of which are Treliving picks
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03-01-2017, 03:32 PM
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#525
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
Super. No need to agree with me.
Same scouts that haven't been able to produce one NHL'er outside of the top 10 yet? Including two first rounders?
Yeah they're flawless.
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These guys say "hi". So does Lance, and also a few guys no longer on the team.
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03-01-2017, 03:33 PM
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#526
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Trading a 2nd for a 21 year old that has already surpassed the average 2nd rounder isn't much of a risk
the numbers don't lie...opinion is one thing
odds favor the Flames there is no debate
maybe the Sens hit a homerun, very unlikely
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Would you have traded Rasmus Andersson for Lazar?
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Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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03-01-2017, 03:34 PM
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#527
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
None of which are Treliving picks
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I must have missed the part where Treliving took on the position of head of scouting. 
Keep reaching bro.
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03-01-2017, 03:34 PM
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#528
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
I may be misremembering, but doesn't Vegas have the option to negotiate with free agents before July 1st, and any signings they make before then count as their expansion draft selection for the team losing that UFA?
Maybe I'm just making things up, but that was my understanding.
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You're 100% correct. There's probably a deadline where any UFAs they sign before the expansion draft will count towards the selection of that team.
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03-01-2017, 03:35 PM
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#529
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
None of which are Treliving picks
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You should go back and read your post.
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03-01-2017, 03:35 PM
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#530
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
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Listen to the FAN 960 interview that Pat and Rob just did with Lazar. What a well spoken guy. Really impressed.
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03-01-2017, 03:36 PM
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#531
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Powerplay Quarterback
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It's already been said here, but his interview on the Fan960 right now is phenomenal. He is such a well spoken individual, and doesn't at all sound like a 22 year old, more like a well rounded vet.
Not only is he honest with his assessment of himself, he sounds absolutely thrilled to be with the Flames
I do have quite a bit of optimism with this.
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03-01-2017, 03:36 PM
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#532
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Would you have traded Rasmus Andersson for Lazar?
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Nope, but I'd trade Hunter Smith, Tyler Wotherspoon or Mason MacDonald.
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03-01-2017, 03:36 PM
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#533
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN
Listen to the FAN 960 interview that Pat and Rob just did with Lazar. What a well spoken guy. Really impressed.
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Put him and Conroy in a room together and you'd never get in a word edgewise.
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03-01-2017, 03:36 PM
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#534
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
I may be misremembering, but doesn't Vegas have the option to negotiate with free agents before July 1st, and any signings they make before then count as their expansion draft selection for the team losing that UFA?
Maybe I'm just making things up, but that was my understanding.
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You're right. Although I think, in regards to Engellend, McPhee would be better suited to trade Future Considerations (AKA trade me Engellend and I'll give you an "extra" protection slot) for his rights once the Flames season is over. They should try to get Engellend early... I think he could be an asset to them in free agency selling other vets on the benefits of actually living in Vegas.
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03-01-2017, 03:37 PM
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#535
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
None of which are Treliving picks
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How would any of the non top 10 picks be in the NHL already in 3 years or less?
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03-01-2017, 03:37 PM
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#536
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Just heard the Fan960 interview with Lazar. Sounds like a great kid and he's clearly excited to be coming to Calgary. Hopefully he can be successful here.
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03-01-2017, 03:37 PM
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#537
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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I remember when Lazar played with the Sens and thinking that he would be great to have our on our team.
Listening to him speak, he sounds like a character guy. He may never work out, but nice to have well spoken kids on the team.
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GO FLAMES GO
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03-01-2017, 03:37 PM
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#538
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
None of which are Treliving picks
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Can't really pick at Treliving picks when the earliest you can evaluate his management is the 2015 draft. He was hired in the end of April 2014 so any scouting work would have been largely done already.
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03-01-2017, 03:39 PM
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#539
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
I meant possession wise.
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Not sure possession is fair either to be honest
His over 50 minute combinations. Has only played on a line with top six players for a 83 minute stint in 2014-15
The rest is bottom six fodder for the most part.
Did he go down in possession for sure, but then he's played with Neil and Kelly this year.
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03-01-2017, 03:39 PM
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#540
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Would you have traded Rasmus Andersson for Lazar?
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Would Rasmus Andersson still be on the board in the second round against this year's draft class?
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