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View Poll Results: Do you like the Lazar trade to Calgary?
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Love it
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Like it
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neutral
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29.48% |
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Don't like it
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Hate it
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03-01-2017, 01:17 PM
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#221
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Well, at least we didn't have to wait all trade deadline day without a Flames trade. Thanks Brad.
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03-01-2017, 01:17 PM
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#222
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Scoring Winger
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I really like this deal...
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03-01-2017, 01:18 PM
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#223
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I don't like this deal.
Price is way too high for a team like the Flames already bleeding picks.
Wrong philosophical direction.
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Don't think the organization is a fan of this draft.
Think the trades to use picks to get guys that could help us now, while still fitting the right age range (21 & 26) is a pretty big sign of that.
Cost is high but the kid is still just a first rounder from only 3 1/2 seasons ago.
Never know if being back in Western Canada is a better fit for him and he becomes a decent bottom 6 contributor.
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03-01-2017, 01:18 PM
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#224
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Bleh, why? We're still building here. Not the time to be spending assets on rentals.
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Lazar isn't a rental.
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03-01-2017, 01:18 PM
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#225
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames89
He has only played in the NHL for 2.5 seasons...
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I made no error in my post. He looked fine as a rookie, has trended down since then.
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03-01-2017, 01:18 PM
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#226
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gondi Stylez
I really like this deal...
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Great analysis
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03-01-2017, 01:18 PM
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#227
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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I like it. Hopefully the change in scenery will help Lazar find his game.
Surprised the Oilers weren't in on this, as they seem to enjoy collecting all of the former Oil Kings.
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03-01-2017, 01:18 PM
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#228
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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So are people really getting wound up about potentially losing a kid that a bunch of others are saying has underperformed?
Is that really the worst case scenario if we lose Lazar? It would be like trading a 2nd round pick to Las Vegas to leave the other guys alone.
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03-01-2017, 01:19 PM
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#229
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
We traded our totally unknown magic beans for some magic beans that had lots of potential but haven't worked out for the other team.
Hard to really love or really hate this.
One thing I know for sure is that people really love magic beans. Or hate them. Depends.
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basically my thinking too...
kid is only 21-22... but has been mainly with the NHL club i believe...
Lazar for a 2nd is really what it boils down to... in this year's draft, that 2 is more like a 3rd in other years (this is something Burke said on the radio this morning)...
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03-01-2017, 01:19 PM
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#230
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
he is 21 for #### sakes!
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I don't care. It's a 2nd round pick.
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03-01-2017, 01:19 PM
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#231
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Franchise Player
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now that I think about it, i wonder if we could have got Seiloff back instead of Thor?
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03-01-2017, 01:19 PM
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#232
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gondi Stylez
I really like this deal...
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Ditto.
This is a bad draft, Kevin sucks, and Lazar has potential. Clearly our scouts and our GM see something in Lazar.
He also fits into the biggest organizational hole we have - a right handed right-winger.
There's upside here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Komskies
Lazar isn't a rental.
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My bleh was directed towards Vrbata.
To conclude my stance:
Vrbata - bleh
Lazar - cool
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03-01-2017, 01:19 PM
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#233
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
he is 21 for #### sakes!
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lots of people here think Poirier is a bust. Lazar is from the same draft class and hasn't done more than Poirier. Is it really that surprising that not everybody on here is jumping for joy that the Flames gave up a 2nd for Lazar? It's bad value.
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03-01-2017, 01:20 PM
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#234
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
He's got 100+ games of not producing at the NHL level?
The Flames are already missing picks in this years draft and next?
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What difference does it make how many games he's got. You claim wrong philosophical direction which couldn't be more wrong. It would be if we gave up the pick for a mature player, but we didn't.
Totally fair if you think the 2nd in this years draft would be a better young talent than Lazar. But it's not a "wrong philosophical" move for the club. They swapped young developing asset for young developing asset.
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03-01-2017, 01:20 PM
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#235
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
I don't care. It's a 2nd round pick.
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You'd just end up flipping out and getting mad at who they selected anyways. This quickens the process for you.
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03-01-2017, 01:20 PM
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#236
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
I don't care. It's a 2nd round pick.
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I look at it as we drafted Lazar with that pick and bought a few years of development.
Draft picks outside the 1st round are a total crapshoot anyways. Relax.
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03-01-2017, 01:21 PM
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#237
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Calgary, AB
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Regular Season Playoffs
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
2010-11 Edmonton Oil Kings WHL 6 0 1 1 0 2 4 1 0 1 0
2011-12 Edmonton Oil Kings WHL 63 20 11 31 56 15 20 8 11 19 4
2012-13 Edmonton Oil Kings WHL 72 38 23 61 47 25 22 9 2 11 20
2013-14 Edmonton Oil Kings WHL 58 41 35 76 30 41 21 10 12 22 12
2014-15 Ottawa Senators NHL 67 6 9 15 14 1 6 0 0 0 2
2015-16 Ottawa Senators NHL 76 6 14 20 18 -1 -- -- -- -- --
2016-17 Binghamton Senators* AHL 13 3 1 4 8 -1
2016-17 Ottawa Senators NHL 33 0 1 1 4 -10
NHL Totals 176 12 24 36 36 6 0 0 0 2
The kid has upside, and I think the move suits the direction of a rebuilding team.
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03-01-2017, 01:21 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
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you don't have to jump for joy but a 2nd in THIS DRAFT is VERY unlikely to be an NHLer even so why cry about it?
its worth a shot
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03-01-2017, 01:22 PM
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#239
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
lots of people here think Poirier is a bust. Lazar is from the same draft class and hasn't done more than Poirier. Is it really that surprising that not everybody on here is jumping for joy that the Flames gave up a 2nd for Lazar? It's bad value.
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Poirier has 1 assist and 0 goals in 8 NHL games.
Lazar has 36 points in 176 NHL games.
I'm not a huge fan of this deal but let's be real here, Lazar has a chance
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03-01-2017, 01:22 PM
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#240
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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Sometimes centres need some time, and perhaps some organizational support, to really develop their potential.
Think Backlund four years ago - he got both and look where he is at today.
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