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Old 03-01-2017, 12:09 PM   #261
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:10 PM   #262
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LA isn't the only team in the race

LA
Edmonton
St. Louis
Nashville
Anaheim

All within a few points, they aren't all gonna have great records

92 points (likely less) gets it done
Indeed! 92 points is very likely 93 is a lock. I see it now.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:15 PM   #263
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Ok, I'm not familiar with the math they use; I just want to understand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Carlo_method
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:17 PM   #264
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Burrows has 9 goals and 20 points in 55 games, traded for a decent prospect.

Iginla has 8 goals and 18 points in 61 games, traded for a conditional 4th round pick.

Sakic is a terrible GM.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:17 PM   #265
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You do know Iggy was beloved in the dressing room here and has never caused 1 problem in his entire career. I'm sure Avs fans are probably all pissy about him but he's the only one on that team with a backbone. He has an insane work ethic, is a great leader, and from all accounts a very good guy who was class personified during his time here. Ya I reallly don't see how he would have a cancerous effect. You can say you don't want him messing with the chemistry of the team but don't say Iggy would've been disruptive in the locker room. He's a consimate professional who I'm sure would've known his role if traded here.
I also know that this team was a listless old boys club for a good 3-4 years preceding him getting traded(which, at the time, was about 2+ years after he should have been traded for us to get a suitable return)

They almost immediately turned the corner and became a totally different team since.

Granted, there was a lot of changes that happened at that time, but I truly believe iginla was an addition by subtraction when he was moved. It changed the culture on the team. Its fine to say he could come back and just be a role player, but there is too many potentially negative what ifs(his play on the ice not withstanding) for me to ever think it would be a good idea to bring him back for anything other than a 1 day retirement contract
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:21 PM   #267
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Burrows has 9 goals and 20 points in 55 games, traded for a decent prospect.

Iginla has 8 goals and 18 points in 61 games, traded for a conditional 4th round pick.

Sakic is a terrible GM.
well Burrows was a terrible deal but they obviously wanted him and have him for 2 seasons after this one now
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:22 PM   #268
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Burrows has 9 goals and 20 points in 55 games, traded for a decent prospect.

Iginla has 8 goals and 18 points in 61 games, traded for a conditional 4th round pick.

Sakic is a terrible GM.
Burrows is 35-years-old, and there were almost certainly no competing offers for Iginla. I agree that Sakic is not a good GM, but this is not an example of his ineptitude.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:23 PM   #269
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Burrows is 35-years-old, and there were almost certainly no competing offers for Iginla. I agree that Sakic is not a good GM, but this is not an example of his ineptitude.
The whole point of this was just to get rid of Iginla.

Because hes paid too much.

Its pretty simple. Its shedding payroll. Its a layoff.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:25 PM   #270
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it's not a layoff.

it's sakic treating a hall of fame veteran with respect and moving him to a spot where he has a shot at the playoffs with a team that wants him.

That's worth much more than a 3rd round draft pick.
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it's not a layoff.

it's sakic treating a hall of fame veteran with respect and moving him to a spot where he has a shot at the playoffs with a team that wants him.

That's worth much more than a 3rd round draft pick.
I'll agree that its the best thing for Iginla other than, you know, 'not signing with Colorado in the first place.'

But its a layoff.

"Sorry man, but our ship is going down. Better luck elsewhere."

The fact that Iginla still has skills and value is a credit to him. The Avs...not so much.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:30 PM   #272
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Burrows has 9 goals and 20 points in 55 games, traded for a decent prospect.

Iginla has 8 goals and 18 points in 61 games, traded for a conditional 4th round pick.

Sakic is a terrible GM.
Actually that scenario says to me that Ottawa has a terrible GM. Especially with the subsequent resigning. Then the NMC just iced that particular turdcake.
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it's not a layoff.

it's sakic treating a hall of fame veteran with respect and moving him to a spot where he has a shot at the playoffs with a team that wants him.

That's worth much more than a 3rd round draft pick.
They weren't getting a 3rd anyway

they save some money and might get something=better than nothing


pretty simple
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:31 PM   #274
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Sounds like he won't be asking for #12
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Sounds like he won't be asking for #12
Yeah, gonna talk it over with his kids and pick a fun number to wear.

...damn that man and his cancerous traits!
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:34 PM   #276
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It would be a massive d-move to ask for that number from another accomplished vet

I don't really like the player anymore but obviously he wouldn't do that
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:35 PM   #277
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I agree it sends a strong supportive message to the team, I just don't agree that it's the right thing to do...
..This is a team that needs to move forward and adapt but as seen today and last week, has decided not to.
"Moving forward" is not a defined prescription. LA is still a very strong and skilled team and they can do significant damage in the playoffs. Yesterday was an indication - they played a very good, solid game. Why not milk it and take advantage of it? The more they can get out of the machine, the better. All NHL teams go through extended slump periods and emerge from them at some point or another after years of sucking. Accelerating the slump is not wise. Investing in repairs could bring a much better results when the structure is still holding up well.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:37 PM   #278
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LA isn't the only team in the race

LA
Edmonton
St. Louis
Nashville
Anaheim

All within a few points, they aren't all gonna have great records...and the teams that do will be taking points from others

92 points (likely less) gets it done

LA also has 3 wins in their last 10 games
More importantly is how are the Oilers going to miss the playoffs.

I think 6-10-2 for 90 points should do.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:41 PM   #279
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Kinda sad Flames didn't get Iggy back, but I think if the Kings make the playoffs, they're gonna go far anyway with or without Iggy. So, I'm hoping the Kings will make the playoffs. Just hope Flames and Kings won't meet in the playoffs.
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There was a heavy degree of cynicism in that post. I disagreed with Iggy's choice to sign in Colorado from Day 1. He took the paycheque and now they're trying to foist it off onto someone else.

Theres no dignity to be found here, now hes just bouncing from team to team.

Its a sad end for a great player.
There's nothing sad about it. He's playing hockey, it's not that serious.
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