View Poll Results: Should the Flames add Iginla if the cost is reasonable?
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Yes
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02-28-2017, 01:45 PM
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#481
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cranbrook
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I'm sure whatever side loses will blame Russian hackers.
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02-28-2017, 01:50 PM
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#482
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Retired
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Back in Guelph
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I think the "No" voters are more focused on the name than the "Yes" voters. I honestly don't see a better option to fill a bottom 6 wing role that would be cheaper to acquire than Iginla. Adds depth, at what I'm assuming will be virtually zero cost. He's still tough as nails, has Avalanche effect stats.... if he comes in a scores 1 pp goal and fights once it's worth it for me.
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02-28-2017, 01:51 PM
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#483
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Savvy27
Lol... cheering for a hockey team is serious business. Don't get all emotional about it people, you're embarrassing yourselves.
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Man sometimes we miss the point so much. Let your emotions run wild once in a while.
Iggy isn't the Iggy of old, but by golly would it be magical watching him skate around in the playoffs in the old Flaming C one last time. A chance of Lanny 2.0
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02-28-2017, 01:53 PM
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#484
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan
I think the "No" voters are more focused on the name than the "Yes" voters. I honestly don't see a better option to fill a bottom 6 wing role that would be cheaper to acquire than Iginla. Adds depth, at what I'm assuming will be virtually zero cost. He's still tough as nails, has Avalanche effect stats.... if he comes in a scores 1 pp goal and fights once it's worth it for me.
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I don't think that is fair. A lot of YES votes are focused on the name. If Iggy played his whole career elsewhere I would t be nearly as interested. He is an icon here but more importantly I feel he would bring an emotional boost to the team, and city if he returned that could produce enough adrenaline to upset some teams this spring
Before someone jumps on me for that comment please not I think it could happen but it could also be a dud move. He will cost very little therefore I think it is worth the risk
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02-28-2017, 02:00 PM
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#485
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Man sometimes we miss the point so much. Let your emotions run wild once in a while.
Iggy isn't the Iggy of old, but by golly would it be magical watching him skate around in the playoffs in the old Flaming C one last time. A chance of Lanny 2.0
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I think most of the "No" voters do feel that way and would love to see that again. But I think we are voting no because the hockey/team reasons are outweighing those positive feelings and nostalgia.
Hey, if the Flames get Iginla, I'll be there cheering him on with the rest! I just voted no because I can't justify a trade for those reasons.
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02-28-2017, 02:02 PM
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#486
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
I think most of the "No" voters do feel that way and would love to see that again. But I think we are voting no because the hockey/team reasons are outweighing those positive feelings and nostalgia.
Hey, if the Flames get Iginla, I'll be there cheering him on with the rest! I just voted no because I can't justify a trade for those reasons.
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Flames need RW. Likely cheap to acquire. Had success here before. Could provide emotional boost.
Seems like a no Brainer to vote yes.
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02-28-2017, 02:04 PM
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#487
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Flames need RW. Likely cheap to acquire. Had success here before. Could provide emotional boost.
Seems like a no Brainer to vote yes.
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I get that side of it, but I think better players can be had. If he's the best/cheapest choice value wise, then you do it.
But I think the fact that this poll is a dead heat tells us this is the opposite of a no-brainer.
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02-28-2017, 02:09 PM
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#488
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan
I think the "No" voters are more focused on the name than the "Yes" voters.
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I think it's actually the other way around. If his name wasn't Iginla, nobody would be interested in acquiring a 40 year old 10 goal player whose skating, defense and grit are huge red flags at this point.
can't wait till tomorrow and I don't hear about "bring home Jarome" anymore. But who knows, maybe he gets a couple more goals for the Avs and some just transition to "sign him in July!!!"
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02-28-2017, 02:12 PM
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#489
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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I just voted "yes" to break the tie.
NHL hockey is entertainment for money first and everything else - distant second. So, yes, absolutely, if he wants to come and the cost is manageable (and I presume it could be), bring Calgary's former superstar back and let him play the last two months of his career here. It would be a great treat for the fans to see him back in Flames uniform again.
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02-28-2017, 02:13 PM
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#490
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Backup Goalie
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Only reason why I'm saying yes to the idea is for ####s and giggles and to see CP explode with hate/excitement lol..
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02-28-2017, 02:21 PM
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#492
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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There are intangibles to the acquisition that I don't think have really been touched on.
I think we can all agree acquiring Iginla would ignite 98% of the fanbase. Could you imagine that return to the Saddledome, in the middle of a playoff race? As a young player on the Flames, would that not light the biggest fire in you competitively?
Personally, I see acquiring Iginla being a huge spark to the fanbase down the stretch. And with a team that has under performed at home all season, what a boost that would be in the stretch run in the playoffs for the 'Dome to be bouncing thanks in large part to the return of the best player in franchise history.
Even if we're talking about a glorified cheerleader (which IMO we're not - there is still game left in Iggy before he hangs them up) I fail to see the downside in taking the risk.
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02-28-2017, 02:26 PM
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#493
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by New Era
The reason you go out and get veterans at the deadline is to take pressure off of young players who have not been through the meat grinder before. You want the veteran experience to rely upon when the youngsters are bent over puking from the pressure to perform.
Getting Iginla as a feel good story is not going to help those young players. Bringing back the chosen son, for one last run at a Stanley Cup, is upping the pressure. Imagine how those young guys are going to feel if they fail to get "Iggy" his cup? Also, there are very few players left on the team that have any affinity to Iginla. Giordano and Backlund are the only guys who played with Iginla for any significant period of time. Stajan and Wideman were in their first seasons as a Flames, and Brodie and Bouma were both in their first full time seasons as Flames. Most guys on this team know Iginla as the enemy. I don't see an emotional lift what so ever for this club. The fans may get a charge out of it, but I think it just puts more pressure on the hockey team. Pass.
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Historically, when the Flames have been dominant at home, it's been in large part due to the Dome being an intimidatingly loud building to play in.
This would be the type of move that might bring that excitement level back to the Dome. So, if the fans are charged up, there's historically been a correlation to the team's on ice performance. Would that then not be a move that pays off for the team?
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02-28-2017, 02:26 PM
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#494
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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After all of what's been discussed here... It really comes down to the price tag.
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02-28-2017, 02:32 PM
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#495
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
Historically, when the Flames have been dominant at home, it's been in large part due to the Dome being an intimidatingly loud building to play in.
This would be the type of move that might bring that excitement level back to the Dome. So, if the fans are charged up, there's historically been a correlation to the team's on ice performance. Would that then not be a move that pays off for the team?
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I am not sure that has ever been true. They were dominant because they had a dominant team. Even if it were true, I don't see Iggy making any difference to the fan base, other than the initial ovation (which would be awesome), and when he scores (which may be rare).
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02-28-2017, 02:33 PM
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#496
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Scoring Winger
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Like I said in the previous Iggy thread, I believe just his presence alone would be enough to justify a trade as it could inspire the younger players (Monahan, Gaudreau, Brodie ect.) to see how much a city reveres a Flame first hand.
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02-28-2017, 02:35 PM
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#497
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Franchise Player
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It cracks me up when people say, "Iginla has game left in him, he just isn't showing it because he's on Colorado." Really? Talk to an Avalanche fan and see how much game they think he has left. If he's waiting to get traded before showing that drive that is going to make him so valuable, then I contend he doesn't have the character you want around young players. I mean, picking and choosing your spots like that is pretty lame. Fortunately, Iginla has always been a character guy, so I don't think that is the case. The reality is that Iginla just doesn't have it any more. Seriously, if he were on a better team he wouldn't be in the lineup at all. There is no shame in acknowledging that time catches up to us all. I wouldn't be surprised to see Iginla still on the Avalanche roster this time tomorrow. Even for free there is too much risk associated with taking on an older player like that. I would expect more Modin like results from this trade.
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02-28-2017, 02:36 PM
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#498
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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If they get a veteran RW, I sure hope it's Patrick Sharp instead of Iginla. Younger, faster, multiple cup winner and comes without the emotional baggage.
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02-28-2017, 02:40 PM
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#499
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by New Era
The reason you go out and get veterans at the deadline is to take pressure off of young players who have not been through the meat grinder before. You want the veteran experience to rely upon when the youngsters are bent over puking from the pressure to perform.
Getting Iginla as a feel good story is not going to help those young players. Bringing back the chosen son, for one last run at a Stanley Cup, is upping the pressure. Imagine how those young guys are going to feel if they fail to get "Iggy" his cup? Also, there are very few players left on the team that have any affinity to Iginla. Giordano and Backlund are the only guys who played with Iginla for any significant period of time. Stajan and Wideman were in their first seasons as a Flames, and Brodie and Bouma were both in their first full time seasons as Flames. Most guys on this team know Iginla as the enemy. I don't see an emotional lift what so ever for this club. The fans may get a charge out of it, but I think it just puts more pressure on the hockey team. Pass.
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You're making it seem like pressure is a bad thing. Pressure makes diamonds right. Also, why are you assuming the team would feel more pressure. You could also say the flip side where the team feels more motivated (I'm stretching here because with or without Iggy we're most likely not winning the cup).
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02-28-2017, 02:41 PM
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#500
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by New Era
...Getting Iginla as a feel good story is not going to help those young players. Bringing back the chosen son, for one last run at a Stanley Cup, is upping the pressure. Imagine how those young guys are going to feel if they fail to get "Iggy" his cup? Also, there are very few players left on the team that have any affinity to Iginla. Giordano and Backlund are the only guys who played with Iginla for any significant period of time. Stajan and Wideman were in their first seasons as a Flames, and Brodie and Bouma were both in their first full time seasons as Flames. Most guys on this team know Iginla as the enemy. I don't see an emotional lift what so ever for this club. The fans may get a charge out of it, but I think it just puts more pressure on the hockey team. Pass.
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Doesn't the third bolded sentence nullify the first two? If the young players on this team have no special affinity for Iginla, then I would expect that they also don't suffer from any extraordinary pressure resulting from strong emotions sparked by his return.
It is not a bad point, but I remain unconvinced.
I think Iginla could be had for minimal cost, I think he can help this team, and I believe his return tomorrow would provide a fantastic narrative with no severe repercussions.
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