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Old 02-28-2017, 08:39 AM   #5041
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Trump wants to take someone's oil. Iran would do.
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Are you one of those people that take Trump seriously but not literally?

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So literally not being allowed into other colleges, thus forcing the creation of HBCUs, is Betsy's idea of "choice". It's pretty sad how deeply ####ed America's education system will be under this woman.
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Do you think he said that multiple times ironically?
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Are you one of those people that take Trump seriously but not literally?
but maybe he'll have another chance.

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As much flak as Trump is getting, the early report card is out:

Achievements - A
Effort - A+
Messaging - C+


Can't argue against those scores, not when the president is giving them out.
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As much flak as Trump is getting, the early report card is out:

Achievements - A
Effort - A+
Messaging - C+


Can't argue against those scores, not when the president is giving them out.
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I'm surprised he didn't create himself a new category above A+.
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I'm surprised he didn't create himself a new category above A+.
Oh he did, he's just being super modest in his self-grading.
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This way he can show an improvement. Always start low.
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Are you one of those people that take Trump seriously but not literally?

Can't watch youtubes at work but I assume it's a good one showing Trump saying he's going to crush Iran and take their oil.
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I can't believe you sat through that. Just the very concept screams "avoid at all cost" television.

That being said, I wish Bill Nye would stop making political talk show appearances. He's not an expert, he didn't even pursue graduate level education....
I truly respect your thoughts, but this is how I envision you when you say things like this

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I don't look down on people who don't have graduate level degrees in general, obviously. I sure don't have a PhD. I'm saying that when you have someone on to provide the "science" perspective on an issue - which is literally the only reason anyone ever invites Bill Nye on a cable news show - the person offering that opinion should be an expert. Bill Nye is not.

There are a huge, huge number of people you could find on any scientific question who could go on TV and explain the issue and actually know it inside and out, and presumably at least some of them are charismatic and would present well - I wish they'd use those people. But if you have to have a general "this guy speaks on behalf of all scientists everywhere" who's the first guy in every producer's speed dial, it'd be nice if said guy was actually a scientist.
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Can't watch youtubes at work but I assume it's a good one showing Trump saying he's going to crush Iran and take their oil.
It is a position he has held through the campaign and after being sworn in, and he has mentioned it in regards to Syria, Iraq and Iran.

He talked about it in his bewildering speech to the CIA.

He even talks about which oil companies will get the spoils.

It might be one of the most cogent aspects of his foreign policy beliefs.
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I don't look down on people who don't have graduate level degrees in general, obviously. I sure don't have a PhD. I'm saying that when you have someone on to provide the "science" perspective on an issue - which is literally the only reason anyone ever invites Bill Nye on a cable news show - the person offering that opinion should be an expert. Bill Nye is not.

There are a huge, huge number of people you could find on any scientific question who could go on TV and explain the issue and actually know it inside and out, and presumably at least some of them are charismatic and would present well - I wish they'd use those people. But if you have to have a general "this guy speaks on behalf of all scientists everywhere" who's the first guy in every producer's speed dial, it'd be nice if said guy was actually a scientist.
Don't disagree...that's why I winked.
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It's like he thinks public opinion on Iraq would be a lot different if America brought home hundreds of billions in oil. That he thinks you can simply "take it" speaks to his spectacular stupidity of course, but the message sounds good in theory. "Sure, hundreds of thousands will die, and we might make the whole situation much worse, but we'll be bringing some oil back with us!".
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I'm not sure I'd use that term for it. Maybe "batcrap insane" was what you were looking for?
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I don't look down on people who don't have graduate level degrees in general, obviously. I sure don't have a PhD. I'm saying that when you have someone on to provide the "science" perspective on an issue - which is literally the only reason anyone ever invites Bill Nye on a cable news show - the person offering that opinion should be an expert. Bill Nye is not.

There are a huge, huge number of people you could find on any scientific question who could go on TV and explain the issue and actually know it inside and out, and presumably at least some of them are charismatic and would present well - I wish they'd use those people. But if you have to have a general "this guy speaks on behalf of all scientists everywhere" who's the first guy in every producer's speed dial, it'd be nice if said guy was actually a scientist.
One does not need an advanced degree or even a degree in the specific area to be an expert. We have corporate scientists who have developed technologies/inventions that contribute billions of dollars to the company in specific areas that are completely unrelated to their degree. The degree isn't even an advanced degree in many cases. They are certainly experts in these unrelated-to-their-degree areas.

Is Nye that guy? I don't know. But if he's capable of understanding the science, follows the developments in the science and truly knows the science he is an expert regardless of what the degree says.

I understand what you're saying but just because he doesn't have the degree doesn't mean he can't be the go to guy. It'd be nice, of course, to have a telegenic and famous climate scientist do it but until then it's left to others to carry that flag.

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