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Old 02-24-2017, 09:43 AM   #4801
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Maybe we need a device rental service for people travelling to the US, leave your devices at home and rent something that's got nothing on it. Or just don't go to the US.

A Vancouver man was denied entry into the United States after a US Customs and Border Patrol officer read his profiles on the gay hookup app Scruff and the website BBRT.

The officer suspected the man was a sex worker because he found messages from the man saying he was “looking for loads,” and assumed it meant he was soliciting sex for cash.

While the misunderstanding might sound funny, it underscores the bitter reality that non-Americans have very few rights at the border, and that even suspicion of criminal behaviour can be used to deny non-Americans entry.


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I wonder if leaving phones and computers at home will look suspicious as well. Can't really win here.
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I had a friend of mine's daughter who is a visible minority. She had applied to a bunch of US schools and was accepted.

Since Trump was elected, her and her family have chosen to look at Canadian schools instead for University.

It's unstable down there and I think its only going to get worse...I just hope rational thought prevails.
hmmm

the university might be the safest place to be in.
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:04 AM   #4803
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Strong lengthy read from the New Yorker:


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...e-new-cold-war
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Donald wants the biggest and best nuclear arsenal. Clearly there's a nuclear gap as the Russians have 1700 weapons and the Americans' "only" have 1400.

That's right folks America lags behind in terms of over kill.

At this point its a debate about how far the rubble flies more then anything else.
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Maybe we need a device rental service for people travelling to the US, leave your devices at home and rent something that's got nothing on it. Or just don't go to the US.

A Vancouver man was denied entry into the United States after a US Customs and Border Patrol officer read his profiles on the gay hookup app Scruff and the website BBRT.

The officer suspected the man was a sex worker because he found messages from the man saying he was “looking for loads,” and assumed it meant he was soliciting sex for cash.

While the misunderstanding might sound funny, it underscores the bitter reality that non-Americans have very few rights at the border, and that even suspicion of criminal behaviour can be used to deny non-Americans entry.


http://www.dailyxtra.com/canada/news...profile-215531
Seriously, just cross the border with a flip phone. Ugh.
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:22 AM   #4806
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I had a friend of mine's daughter who is a visible minority. She had applied to a bunch of US schools and was accepted.

Since Trump was elected, her and her family have chosen to look at Canadian schools instead for University.

It's unstable down there and I think its only going to get worse...I just hope rational thought prevails.
I have a client that helps international students come to Canada. Her workload is exploding as more and more people avoid the USA for Canada.

Silicon Valley North? Calgary wants to lure tech workers from the U.S.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...s-from-america

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Old 02-24-2017, 10:44 AM   #4807
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Family members of the Indian men shot at an Olathe, Kan., bar Wednesday in a possible hate crime said that they feared that the current atmosphere of fear and xenophobia in the United States means that the country is not a safe place for Indians, with one Indian father exhorting parents not to send their children there.

“There is a kind of hysteria spreading that is not good because so many of our beloved children live there,” said Venu Madhav, a relative of Srinivas Kuchibhotla, the young software engineer fatally shot Wednesday night. “Such hatred is not good for people.”

Kuchibhotla and his friend and colleague Alok Madasani, 32, were at a bar crowded with patrons watching a basketball game Wednesday when an allegedly drunken man began hurling racial slurs at them and then opened fire, reportedly shouting “get out of my country,” witnesses said.

[He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India, killing one]

Kuchibhotla, 32, was seriously wounded in the attack and died later at a hospital. Madasani and a third victim — Ian Grillot, who had tried to intervene — were treated for shotgun wounds at a hospital.

Adam W. Purinton, 51, of Olathe, a Navy veteran, was later arrested and charged with first-degree murder and attempted first-degree murder. Federal law enforcement officials said Thursday that they and local police are investigating to determine whether the shootings were “bias motivated.” Witnesses said that Purinton seemed to be under the impression that the men were of Middle Eastern descent.

Family members of the victims living in the southern city of Hyderabad told the Hindustan Times that the two friends — software engineers with the Olathe-based Garmin — had not antagonized Purinton, and that Purinton had “picked an argument” with the men, suggesting that they were staying in the United States illegally.

“They tried to tell him that they had done their [master’s degrees] in Kansas in 2006 and had been staying there with valid work permits,” a relative said.

Kuchibhotla and Madasani were employees on the Aviation Systems Engineering team at Garmin, headquartered in Olathe. According to Kuchibhotla’s LinkedIn account, he held a master’s degree in electrical and electronics engineering from the University of Texas at El Paso and a bachelor’s degree from the Jawaharlal Nehru Technological University in India. Madasani’s LinkedIn said he studied at the University of Missouri-Kansas City and at Vasavi College of Engineering in India.

Madasani’s father, Jaganmohan Reddy, told the Hindustan Times that in recent months, he had begun to ask his son to return home, fearing that he might not be safe in the country’s racially charged atmosphere, with ugly incidents and hate groups on the rise.
Hearbreaking.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...1028&tid=ss_tw
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Tom Clancy in one of his novels had a discussion around Nuclear Arms that made a lot of sense.

Lets say that I'm sitting two feet away from you with a gun loaded with 6 bullets pointed at your chest. Chances are that the first bullet will kill you, the other 5 are just defining how far the rubble flies.

I think that Roger Fisher made the suggestion in 1981, that the nuclear launch codes should be embedded in the chest of the guy that carries the nuclear football. And the briefcase should carry a butcher knife. so if the president makes the decision to kill billions of faceless people he would have to kill one person horribly to do it and that might give him perspective.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:28 AM   #4811
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Can't believe how much Trump talks about the press lying, and being fake, while he blatantly lies, almost daily, and no one calls him out on it, to his face.
Really wish someone would. I know his clown show posse gets asked it, but not sure if he ever does. Would like to see it happen.
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Can't believe how much Trump talks about the press lying, and being fake, while he blatantly lies, almost daily, and no one calls him out on it, to his face.
Really wish someone would. I know his clown show posse gets asked it, but not sure if he ever does. Would like to see it happen.
He was called out on the "most electoral votes since Reagan" thing and his response was "Oh, that's what someone told me!"
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Can't believe how much Trump talks about the press lying, and being fake, while he blatantly lies, almost daily, and no one calls him out on it, to his face.
Really wish someone would. I know his clown show posse gets asked it, but not sure if he ever does. Would like to see it happen.
He would just say he is relating something someone told him. Not lying. And Crooked Hillary.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:37 AM   #4814
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Tom Clancy in one of his novels had a discussion around Nuclear Arms that made a lot of sense.

Lets say that I'm sitting two feet away from you with a gun loaded with 6 bullets pointed at your chest. Chances are that the first bullet will kill you, the other 5 are just defining how far the rubble flies.

I think that Roger Fisher made the suggestion in 1981, that the nuclear launch codes should be embedded in the chest of the guy that carries the nuclear football. And the briefcase should carry a butcher knife. so if the president makes the decision to kill billions of faceless people he would have to kill one person horribly to do it and that might give him perspective.
Ha, Trump would just get Bannon to do it!
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Dump should have been challenged to fire that person that related that something to him. What if it was President Bannon that told him?
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:39 AM   #4816
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Strong lengthy read from the New Yorker:


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...e-new-cold-war
Great article. No conclusions, but a ton of information. Not good for people who want strong black and white answers, but sheds a lot of light on what's going on with Russia.
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Ha, Trump would just get Bannon to do it!
My personal favorite example of this is when Reince Preibus went on a rant on ABC about journalists using "anonymous sources" with regards to what's going on, then refuted those reports with anonymous sources. When called out on it he got mad and said they weren't anonymous he just couldn't say who they were because they didn't agree to be identified.

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Strong lengthy read from the New Yorker:


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Fascinating read. Thanks for the link.
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So DHS (a group that is already far too big for its britches) and DOJ are putting together the case for a muslim ban. What is amazingly lost on people is that this is backwards. Instead of evaluating the data and making conclusion based on the data this xenophobic administration (and that's being nice...racist is the real word) has made the conclusion and tasked lackies with fitting selected data to that conclusion.
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As an East Indian this is what scared me most about Trump's presidency. Sure, I don't agree with his policies but the part that really worried me is every racist person who clearly never had any real interaction with various minority groups now thinks it's open season on anyone who doesn't look like them.
My wife is going to Houston next week and we legitimately had to have a conversation this morning about if she still wanted to go. She still is, but we definitely talked about things/situations to be wary of. We're supposed to go to Boston this summer for her cousin's wedding and we've pretty much decided that we won't be bringing our kids as a precaution.
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