02-23-2017, 12:55 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Bouma is one of those guys that a lot of us thought would/could be a key part of the team moving forward but it seems that as soon as he got his last contract he stopped being the player who earned that contract. I hope he's traded or is taken in the expansion draft.
I just wonder if he has any trade value at this point
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02-23-2017, 01:14 PM
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#2182
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The Bouma everyone loved was the shot blocking, fearless, energy player that would pot in 10-15 goals. You win with players like Bouma 2014-2015.
Players that produce like Bouma 2015-current are a dime a dozen waiver fodder. Unfortunately, it was a gamble that never paid off for Treliving as he was expecting 2014-2015 Bouma and that isn't what we are getting.
Bouma 2014-2015
16-18-34 in 78 games
since
5-7-13 in 84 games
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02-23-2017, 01:19 PM
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Injuries pretty much wrecked Bouma.
I don't hold any ill-will towards him for not living up to the contract. It's just too bad that he got thrown off course.
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02-23-2017, 01:32 PM
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#2184
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Everyone knew the moment Bouma signed that he wasn't going to live up to that contract.
He got the Backlund bump and was a fan favorite. I hold no ill will towards him for being the same player today as he was before getting put on Backlund's line. Treliving should have negotiated a little harder on this one.
Thankfully, I believe the Bouma contract is the reason why the Flames don't have a toxic Colborne contract right now. The small mistake definitely prevented a larger one imo.
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02-23-2017, 01:33 PM
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#2185
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Originally Posted by Par
I would do that(depending on the cost of course), Evander Kane would be good fit but his off ice issues would scare me a bit and he kind of has Las Vegas written all over him. But if he came here and did good and stayed out of trouble he would be very good and would be loved by the fan base.
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I am not a fan of Kane at all... strikes me as an immature, selfish "me first" kind of player... while he's played better of late, who's to say that this isn't just a blip...
Huge pass for me, especially considering the cost of acquisition, will be quite high.
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02-23-2017, 01:35 PM
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#2186
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Injuries pretty much wrecked Bouma.
I don't hold any ill-will towards him for not living up to the contract. It's just too bad that he got thrown off course.
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The guy had 26 points in over 90 AHL games. No way was he going to repeat 14/15 injuries or not.
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02-23-2017, 01:36 PM
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#2187
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Originally Posted by Poe969
Bouma is one of those guys that a lot of us thought would/could be a key part of the team moving forward but it seems that as soon as he got his last contract he stopped being the player who earned that contract. I hope he's traded or is taken in the expansion draft.
I just wonder if he has any trade value at this point
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Don't fall in love with role players. They are easily replaced.
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02-23-2017, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
The guy had 26 points in over 90 AHL games. No way was he going to repeat 14/15 injuries or not.
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True, but he also plays more tentatively than he did in 14/15.
I don't think anyone was predicting that same level of production, but injuries changed the way he plays the game.
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02-23-2017, 01:45 PM
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#2189
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Originally Posted by bigrangy
Everyone knew the moment Bouma signed that he wasn't going to live up to that contract.
He got the Backlund bump and was a fan favorite. I hold no ill will towards him for being the same player today as he was before getting put on Backlund's line. Treliving should have negotiated a little harder on this one.
Thankfully, I believe the Bouma contract is the reason why the Flames don't have a toxic Colborne contract right now. The small mistake definitely prevented a larger one imo.
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His arbitration rights were definitely a factor.
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02-23-2017, 01:54 PM
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#2190
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
The guy had 26 points in over 90 AHL games. No way was he going to repeat 14/15 injuries or not.
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Yeah but he was a useful heart and soul player in the mold of Brandon Prust even if he could never maintain that scoring clip. Problem is that guys that put everything on the line all the time have short shelf lives due to the toll it takes on their bodies. When they are unable to go all out consistently their effectiveness is greatly reduced.
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02-23-2017, 02:17 PM
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#2191
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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How awesome would it be to somehow to bring Jagr here for a playoff push. Veteran with leadership and experience, also can still score. Bouma and a 4th.
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02-23-2017, 02:20 PM
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#2192
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by New Era
Don't fall in love with role players. They are easily replaced.
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02-23-2017, 02:29 PM
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#2193
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
How awesome would it be to somehow to bring Jagr here for a playoff push. Veteran with leadership and experience, also can still score. Bouma and a 4th.
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Why would Florida move him when he is playing top line and they are in the playoff mix?
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02-23-2017, 02:34 PM
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#2194
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#1 Goaltender
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I could see Florida trading Bjugstad. He is having a terrible year- lost his #3C spot on the team and now plays RW full time. He's had some injury troubles the last couple of seasons but scored 24 goals two years ago. Could be a buy low scenario.
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02-23-2017, 02:35 PM
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#2195
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Why would Florida move him when he is playing top line and they are in the playoff mix?
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Because I said so.
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02-23-2017, 02:36 PM
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#2196
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Why would Florida move him when he is playing top line and they are in the playoff mix?
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They wouldn't- especially for Bouma & a 4th (lol).
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02-23-2017, 02:39 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Original FFIV
Jimmy Murphy @MurphysLaw74
Last season #NHLBruins expressed interest in Dennis Wideman. Available again as a cheap rental. Potential back up plan if no Shattenkirk?
11:20 AM · Feb 23, 2017
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Well, the Bruin brass are morons, so there is hope!
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02-23-2017, 04:38 PM
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#2198
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Insider trading:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider-...rental~1064355
Shattenkirk likely only to be traded as a rental not a sign and trade
Armstrong wants a 1st, top prospect, plus something else
On 3 occasions - Edmonton last summer, a team in November, and another team last month - there have been deals consumated by the Blues on Shattenkirk conditional on him agreeing to signing an extension. In each of those situations no agreement with Shattenkrik was reached
The team last month offered 7 years, $42 million
Leafs, Bruins, Lightning, Rangers are among teams that expressed interest in Shattenkirk
Coyotes would like to move Hanzal by the end of the week
Interest in Hanzal coming mostly from western conference teams, but that does not rule out montreal
10-12 teams interested in Patrick Eaves and some belief that he will be traded well before the deadline
Canucks want a young player or top prospect for Hansen rather than a draft pick
Some level of interest by the wild, but the Wild may just be happy to get a bottom 6 player at the deadline
Panthers seeking top 9 rental forward
More than one team has engaged Gallant for coaching positions
Chicago in the market for a depth forward if he has a low cap hit and can be had for just a draft pick
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02-23-2017, 05:09 PM
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#2199
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Francisco
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Insider trading:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider-...rental~1064355
Shattenkirk likely only to be traded as a rental not a sign and trade
Armstrong wants a 1st, top prospect, plus something else
On 3 occasions - Edmonton last summer, a team in November, and another team last month - there have been deals consumated by the Blues on Shattenkirk conditional on him agreeing to signing an extension. In each of those situations no agreement with Shattenkrik was reached
The team last month offered 7 years, $42 million
Leafs, Bruins, Lightning, Rangers are among teams that expressed interest in Shattenkirk
Coyotes would like to move Hanzal by the end of the week
Interest in Hanzal coming mostly from western conference teams, but that does not rule out montreal
10-12 teams interested in Patrick Eaves and some belief that he will be traded well before the deadline
Canucks want a young player or top prospect for Hansen rather than a draft pick
Some level of interest by the wild, but the Wild may just be happy to get a bottom 6 player at the deadline
Panthers seeking top 9 rental forward
More than one team has engaged Gallant for coaching positions
Chicago in the market for a depth forward if he has a low cap hit and can be had for just a draft pick |
7 years at 6 is pretty fair value, obviously Shattenkirk doesn't want to resign in St.Louis and he is having a pretty decent year. Tough situation for the Blues. A top prospect for Hansen, I lol'd at that. Won't be traded if that's the ask.
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02-23-2017, 05:14 PM
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#2200
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Unlikely to be moved so soon, Chiasson is somebody I'm sure most people wouldn't say no to being moved to Chicago for a 5th.
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