2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[TheScorpion]

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[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Eric Francis, I'm so sorry.

That mistake is not on you at all, because what kind of crazy general manager backloads a contract like that?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Delete your account

Look in the mirror bro. You're much worse than Scorpion and I'd much rather you delete your account and spare us

[Travis Munroe]

Ryan Leslie just said that there is more than 1 team VERY interested in Dennis Wideman.

I have never thought he would have any inside track so perhaps he is taking it from somewhere else or trying to pump Wideman's stock for the flames if by some chance some other GM hears it.

[transplant99]

Leslie drops a bomb...lol....that is the first time i have heard anyone in the media claim there is interest in Wideman ....hopefully some truth to it and DW is willing to go to that team

[GullFoss]

i have reason to believe Scorpian has inside info, but didnt want to reveal a source...instead he made up a guy in a restraunt story.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Leslie drops a bomb...lol....that is the first time i have heard anyone in the media claim there is interest in Wideman ....hopefully some truth to it and DW is willing to go to that team

Have you ever heard of any teams having interest over the years? Seems like we have been hearing for years about the lack of interest.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Have you ever heard of any teams having interest over the years? Seems like we have been hearing for years about the lack of interest.

Wasn't it alleged that the Flames were close to working out a deal to trade Wideman last year and Treliving was upset that he couldn't trade him due to the suspension.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Have you ever heard of any teams having interest over the years? Seems like we have been hearing for years about the lack of interest.

I think there was a mention of some interest right before "The Incident". Can't recall the details.

Edit: ^ Yeah, so I'm not crazy. Phew.

[GullFoss]

The scorpian said, now leslie said it. I bet Wideman goes and jokipakka stays. that frees up enuf salary to go after iggy.

[Flash Walken]

I remember his name being 'out there' from time to time but it always seemed as the flea were sellers without buyers.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

The scorpian said, now leslie said it. I bet Wideman goes and jokipakka stays. that frees up enuf salary to go after iggy.

He have enough cap space for 2 Iginla's, but none is more than enough

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

He have enough cap space for 2 Iginla's

They do?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

They do?

Think so, but never sure exactly how LTIR works. Iginla has just under 1.4 left in the season on his cap hit, Flames have over 2.8 with LTIR space. More once you jettison one of the 23man roster to make room.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

They do?

Pretty sure, they have about 2.85 million in LTIR space according to capfriendly and Iginla would be about $1.1 million at this time of the year.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Think so, but never sure exactly how LTIR works. Iginla has just under 1.4 left in the season on his cap hit, Flames have over 2.8 with LTIR space. More once you jettison one of the 23man roster to make room.

LTIR doesn't get prorated over time.

Look at the projected deadline space on capfriendly. That is the full season cap hit the Flames can add.

They can only add a $2.8 mil full season cap hit player at the deadline without moving salary out or salary being moved out.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

LTIR doesn't get prorated over time.

Look at the projected deadline space on capfriendly. That is the full season cap hit the Flames can add.

They can only add a $2.8 mil full season cap hit player at the deadline without moving salary out or salary being moved out.

Yet when you look at their daily cap tracker, they are showing only about a 550k increase when Stone was added.

[sureLoss]

Here is a better explanation:
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...ve-is-not-good

Everyone knows Chris Pronger is never going to play again, so the Flyers have been, and will continue to rely on LTIR to get the cap relief they need to replace him. However, many fans mistakenly think LTIR just makes the cap hit disappear; or at worst, that it allows the team to exceed the ceiling, for effectively the same result.

That's not the case. When it comes down to it LTIR is bad. It has negative ramifications and if you don't have to use it, you shouldn't.

For the sake of keeping this piece short and sweet, I'll keep the discussion at a really high level. The salary cap is calculated on a daily basis, not a yearly basis. It's almost as if, every day the Flyers are given a chunk of money to use to pay their players for that day. If they don't use it all, they can pocket the difference, and use it later.

The simplest example of this is to think about it from a yearly cap space perspective. If you have $1 million in cap space. Once you are 50% of the way through the season, you can acquire a $2 million player. You can afford their $2 million daily cap hit because you only have to pay it for 50% of the season, and you've been saving up a little bit of a time for that first half of the season.

The Flyers however, do use all of that daily money. In fact, they use even more. LTIR allows them to spend even more than that daily allowed sum. The difference with LTIR though, is that if a team doesn't use all of their possible LTIR, they don't get to pocket the difference.

The end result is that a team will never be able to have buying power exceeding the cap hit of the player(s) on LTIR. Whereas a team that is truly under the salary cap can get more for their money later in the season.

[bubbsy]

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[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

LTIR doesn't get prorated over time.

That's what I thought, but I was having trouble tracking down a reference. The CBA's language on LTIR is extraordinarily foggy and confusing, and the examples only make it worse.