[News] Habs hire Julien as head coach. Therrien fired

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Win % trailing after 1 was 14th last season. Where are you getting these numbers from? That's 5 teams better than this season.

That's only because other teams improved as well.

Last year: .240
This year: .286

.046 improvement (would've been good for 8th last year, .240 would put us at 21st this year)

So, again, pretty decent push-back compared to the last 5-10 seasons. Not amazing, but a lot better than zero (and better than 2/3 of Hartley's years).

And 16th is not 5 spots behind 14th.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

And 16th is not 5 spots behind 14th.

Fixed that, I had read your trailing after 2P stat as the first. Still, it's a negligible improvement over last season's tire fire.

[Wiggum_PI]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Is this a joke? You are proving they were incredibly inconsistent last season

11 game win streak, finished with terrible record

At least there were some things to be positive about last year. All you Gulutzan apologists have this year is the awesome Corsi-Fenwick stats, that have produced a whopping 4 more points then last season. Where is this "next level" Gulutzan is taking the team too?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Fixed that, I had read your trailing after 2P stat as the first. Still, it's a negligible improvement over last season's tire fire.

It's a pretty big improvement when you consider the spread. That .046 is close to Anaheim's win % after trailing by 1... total...

What is your opinion on the 14 teams below us? Columbus? Montreal? LA? Anaheim? Toronto? Boston?

Tire fires?

Plain as day, the myth that we crumple when scored on first or when trailing after 1 is not true. There's just zero evidence to back that up. Has it happened? Yeah, but not a notable amount. Suggestion we have zero push-back is just being dramatic.

[Tsawwassen]

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[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Good move by the Habs. Sure Montreal leads their division but there is a very real possibility of losing in the first round as the 1st wildcard will likely have more points than they do.

And that's why this division set up format is so stupid.

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Think a lot of it has to do with Montreal needing a bi-lingual coach.

If they falter down the stretch and wait until the offseason who is going to be available.

Best available French-Canadian coach was available right now, and they didn't want to miss out.

I was kind of surprised that after the regular season last year that the Habs didn't fire Therrien then and hire Guy Boucher who's also bilingual.

[CSharp]

Whew, Glutz dodged a termination! LOL I don't think he'll be replaced with Therrien any time soon.

[thefoss1957]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

Thoughts on Julien's firing:

4. There will be a bidding war fueled by delusional franchises (say, Vancouver) that believe that a SC winning HC can perform miracles with a fading roster (see Boston, until today, as an example!) and teams that can actually improve the quality of coaching with a Julien (gotta think Montreal will join in on the bidding, now, with a Bilingual, French descended, SC winning, guy, like Julien, available, especially if they stumble, again, under Thierrien.)

From the Julien fired thread...

I am totally unsurprised by this move...the second Julien became available, it seemed to me, curtains for Thierrien, again. The Habs made this exact move before...and given the impatience of the Montreal fans/press, and the xenophobic nature of the Francophone/French-Canadian coach fixation, it seemed only a matter of time. Julien better hope that Quenneville doesn't leave the Blackhawks before Julien retires, or the clamor for a French-Canadian MULTI-Cup winning coach will be unbearable in Montreal.

[t0rrent98]

Marc Bergevin explanation.

If you were in Montreal on Tuesday (or had the chance to be close to the city) you probably saw that Michel Therrien's dismissal was on every network. Firing the Montreal Canadiens head coach might be a bigger event than if it was the prime minister was being impeach. Anyway, the move has been made just before 5 Pm which gave the management team enough times to figure out what say on the press conference held this morning at 11 am ET.
Here's what Marc Bergevin had to say regarding the firing of Michel Therrien and the hiring of Claude Julien.
- "First of all, I have a few words and I will read it not to forget a thing" said Bergevin at the beginning of the press conference.
- "I made the best decisions regarding the Montreal Canadiens organization"
- "I fought alongside Michel and I will do it with Claude, this not making the decision easy"
- "I would like to publicly adresses my gratitude to Michel Therrien"
- "I'm convince in hiring Claude Julien we now have on of the best NHL coach"
- "With or without Claude being available, a move needed to be made"
They Tweeted :
Does "turning point" mean that the Montreal Canadiens are all in this year?

[EldrickOnIce]

When Galchenyuk scores the winner in a Price shutout win, the entirety of Canadiens Nation spontaneously combust today lol.

[Robbob]

After all this I kind of want to see them get blown out with Galchenyuk a minus 3 and Radulov completely thrown off his game.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Robbob

After all this I kind of want to see them get blown out with Galchenyuk a minus 3 and Radulov completely thrown off his game.

After all this?

I hope for this sort of adversity for the Habs every time they step on the ice.It has been that way since 1986.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

You're right, this year's squad is quite consistent at getting blasted out of the building when they don't score first.

Any fan with a shred of statistical chops can simply look at the Flames winning % when trailing after the first period and conclude they have zero push back.

Totally consistent.

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

They're 16th in the league for win % when trailing after 1, 19th when trailing after 2, and 14th in win % when their opponent scores first in general.

So... better than the bottom third of the league in both scenarios. That's not as dramatic as you made it sound.

EDIT: Fun fact, all three of those numbers (win % after trailing after 1st, win % trailing after 2nd, and win % opponent scoring first) are improved over last year. So our push back level has actually increased under Gulutzan.

2014-15 was a great year for comebacks (those win percentages were all very high), but our numbers are actually a great improvement over the average of the last decade or so. Not including 14-15:

Win % opponent scores first - Best since 08-09
Win % trailing after 2 - Best since 10-11
Win % trailing after 1 - Best since 09-09

lol

[Fire]

Not a good start for the saviour. Maybe they will sign Hartley for a 5 year deal if they have a losing record over the next 10 games...

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Fire

Not a good start for the saviour. Maybe they will sign Hartley for a 5 year deal if they have a losing record over the next 10 games...

Which means very little, of course.

[3thirty]

Contract Julien signed is 5.0 million for 5 years according to reports, big payday.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by 3thirty

Contract Julien signed is 5.0 million for 5 years according to reports, big payday.

Apparently another NHL team (not Las Vegas) was also trying to sign him according to Friedman.

[shadowlord]

Is this website credible? (If I have to ask, it probably isn't)

http://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/b...using-a-player

[habernac]

First I've seen of that. Therrien was also rumoured to have called Pacioretty the worst captain in Canadiens history in front of some member of the press. I've never been a fan of Michel's, but I'd be surprised if he did any of this stuff.